Mr. Scot

Wow

That's from 2011

This is the kind of stuff that makes me roll my eyes. There isn't any "report that Fitterer is focused on Quinn as candidate #1". There is speculation that Dan Quinn could be a candidate for the job because he has connections to both Fitterer and Morgan and it's believed that Tepper wants an experienced coach. Yet we have people talking as if they've already been on the phone with Quinn discussing contract terms

His part of the job, which is drafting and improving the roster. Is he to blame for the coaching on the field?

The thought of hiring someone in general doesn't scare me. The thought of David Tepper hiring someone does.

If you really think Fitterer compares to Marty Hurney, you've gone waaaaayyy out there.

Neither do you, but you're acting like you do. Are we going to just fire the entire staff now for having anything to do with the Rhule Era and let Tepper build the team from scratch? For that matter, why not gut the roster as well?

Why risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Is it now somehow impossible to say that Fitterer paired with the right coach could actually work?

I find this odd given I was assured by Panther fans that we had the worst roster in the history of football and anyone associated with it must be purged

Wrong. I actually think he is good and can be better. Not being shackled to Matt Rhule would help a lot.

There's a pretty good argument to be made...

Morgan has had one GM interview, and that was with the Steelers were interviewing everybody. Most guys who end up as GMs have multiple interviews before they finally get the job. He got a job with the Seahawks when he was first starting out, with the Bills because of Beane and with the Panthers because of Fitterer. That's not to say he's bad, but I do think the Panther fanbase might be overrating him a little bit. I've seen nothing to indicate Morgan is as hot a GM candidate as some think...well, except from Panther fans who want to blame Scott Fitterer for everything but somehow think Dan Morgan is absolved.

Have you forgotten Samir Suleiman exists? And no I don't, because I'm pretty sure if you were fired from a position you were perfectly qualified for because the actions of a superior who wasn't qualified for their job but negatively affected yours, you'd be howling. I'd dd you never answered how all this blame you think falls on Fitterer misses Dan Morgan.

I'd love to see Wilks succeed, but the deck is rather heavily stacked against him.

I'd add that Quinn is only one of the guys who has direct connections to the current edition of the Panthers that I know of (one of the others, oddly enough, is Sean Payton) The rest: - Ken Dorsey (Dan Morgan) - Ben Johnson (Joe Dailey, Luke Kuechly) - Shane Steichen (Steve Wilks) If Steichen got the job, he might want to keep Wilks on as his DC. Likewise, Johnson might ask Luke Kuechly if he wants a role on his staff.

One more breakdown (on slightly different terms) Guys who are ready right now - Don Martindale - Rich Bisaccia - Frank Reich (if he's fired) - Dan Quinn - Sean Payton Guys with current connections to the Panthers - Dan Quinn - Sean Payton - Ken Dorsey - Ben Johnson - Shane Steichen Guys I'd like to see more of in their current roles before making them a head coach - Ken Dorsey - Ben Johnson - Brian Callahan - Kellen Moore - Mike LaFleur - Mike Kafka - Frank Smith - Demeco Ryans - Jerod Mayo - Kellen Moore - Byron Leftwich - Frank Smith - Liam Coen Guys on the defensive side of the ball - Jonathan Gannon - Patrick Graham - Lou Anarumo - Jerod Mayo Guys who I'm not big fans of but who potentially could be candidates - Dan Quinn - Brian Flores - Raheem Morris - Leslie Frazier - Jim Harbaugh - Eric Bieniemy Guys we like but might not be able to get - Sean Payton (for obvious reasons) - Shane Steichen (depending on the Chargers)

Yeah, can't say I'm a fan of this idea. Have to acknowledge it's a real possibility though. (lots of already connected dots)

...and there's a reasonable possibility that it could be given that he's a hot head coaching candidate, fits the "experienced head coach" profile that David Tepper is believed to want and has connections to both Scott Fitterer and Dan Morgan from their days in Seattle. If he does get the job, the first question people are likely to ask will be who he's going to choose for his offensive coordinator. With that in mind, I took a look at some of his current and former colleagues on the offensive side of the ball who might be available. Mind you, some of what might have been his best options aren't available because they've got coordinator or head coaching jobs already (particularly those associated with Kyle Shanahan). Here are some he conceivably could get. There are some decent options, but I wouldn't necessarily find some of these choices all that exciting. Cowboys OL Coach Joe Philbin - plenty of OC experience and has been a head coach, but after his failure in Miami his career looks to be headed in the wrong direction Cowboys Coaching Analyst Brian Schottenheimer - again, plenty of OC experience but has had kind of an up and down career (currently down) Cowboys QB Coach Doug Nussmeier - played in the NFL, OC experience, but mostly at the college level, might be a better QB coach but that would be a lateral move Dolphins QB Coach Darrell Bevell - the OC for the Seahawks Super Bowl losing season, but based on more recent tevelations, not necessarily to blame for how the game ended, currently working under Mike McDaniel in Miami Seahawks Associate Head Coach Carl Smith - up there in age (74) and has more experience as a position coach than as a coordinator Browns OL Coach Bill Callahan - his son is the more popular family member these days, dad Bill is more experienced but somewhat less successful Rams Senior Offensive Assistant Greg Olson - member of the Gruden tree, well travelled but not always the most popular guy, his offenses tend to be more good than great University of Missouri Offensive Analyst Scott Linehan - interviewed here for the QB coach job that ultimately went to Sean Ryan, known to be a good offensive mind but also a bit of a prickly personality Former Titans Head Coach Mike Mularkey - another former head coach (three times) but has been out of the league for a few years after announcing his retirement in 2019 Former Seahawks OL Coach Tom Cable - also out of the league currently (since 2018), was fired from his Seahawks gig, probably a better OL coach than OC but there are better options for that position too Former Bengals / Bears OC Bill Lazor - was getting head coach buzz for a while when he was with the Bengals but ended up fired instead, went to the Bears under Matt Nagy and well, you probably know how that turned out Former Cowboys Head Coach Jason Garrett - a long shot, there's talk he wants to coach again but he definitely wouldn't be the first guy I'd call _________________________ So...yeah You're looking at a pretty WCO heavy group there, so I'd expect that to be the base offensive system. Out of that group, your best choices might be Bevell and Olson. I could see Callahan if there was some way to also get his son, but that's extremely unlikely. Ultimately, the best bet for a good OC might come from a team who fires their head coach this season. Frank Reich might be an option. Hell, Quinn's current boss Mike McCarthy could too. It's even conceivable that someone like Ben Johnson might come available if the Lions fire Dan Campbell and Johnson doesn't get a head coaching job somewhere else. Of course, none of those guys have any prior history with Quinn. What might be the most ideal and desired option would be someone from the Kyle Shanahan tree, but that tree has been picked pretty clean and the fruit that remains on it probably isn't ripe yet. I suppose he could call Papa Mike Shanahan. He's 70 and retired, but he (or Kyle, for that matter) could potentially put him in touch with someone else they may know. Bottom Line though, this would be a pretty important hire, and the prospects don't exactly take your breath away. But hey, you never know...

What Tepper thinks of the roster affects what he decides about whether Fitterer stays. Whether I agree or not doesn't matter. As far as the OL, remember we heard things shifted on the personnel fronts. That's why I'm comfortable giving Fitterer (and Morgan) credit for their work. Also again, I'm arguing for Fitterer to be given the chance to operate without Matt Rhule. You're arguing that he deserves to be fired regardless of what happened in a situation where he did not have final say. Does that really seem reasonable to you? If it does, I can't help you.

Tepper isn't viewed well around the league, but last time I checked he's still in charge of who works here. So if he thinks the roster is good, who does he credit? In your mind, our roster being bad is Fitterer's fault (Fitt's roster - your words) even though he didn't have roster control, because...you say so? If Tepper thinks the roster is good, is it still "Fitt's roster" or does that change? And despite it being stated that Rhule had control of the quarterback situation, he's to blame for that as well...why exactly? Did Fitterer also seek out the former Temple and Baylor players on our roster because...he just thought it'd be a good idea? You'rve stated more than once that it's impossible to know who did what, yet now you're ready to put all the blame on Fitterer...why? To win the argument? You're tying yourself in some major knots here...

None that I know of.

Well for one, your comparisons aren't to similar situations. Interim coaches, for example, are always in bad situations. They're part of losing teams, saddled with staffs they didn't pick, and in Wilks' case with one he may not even like. They rarely get the job, even when they arguably should (Rich Bisaccia, for example). Fitterer isn't an interim, but he's also not in a spot where he can do a whole lot. Roster building is mostly an offseason exercise. Outside of maintenance and maybe a trade or two, his work for the year would mostly be done. And no, a fire sale isn't a good idea. Especially not if they do want to genuinely give Steve Wilks a chance. (and they should)

Because he has the job. That's not difficult. Wi the regard to the comment, it was specifically describing how Tepper is viewed around the league, so ..yeah. As far as what I've seen, the offensive line would be the first thing (and in one offseason, no less). And again, Tepper himself said the roster has improved over the past few years. Do you think he's crediting the guy he just fired with that?

This kind of post is when you know you don't have anything substantive left to argue with.

Now you're dead certain his job performance is poor? How did you get there? And yes, Tepper is viewed poorly. Hence the "that job for that boss" comments.