Khyber53

Just bought Jesse Wells' newest album. The kid is good, really good.

Dang. Still using my hotmail address. I am an old fart.

Nope. He has completely washed that out for me over the last couple of seasons. We have not built a defense, he hasn't seemed to have developed any of the talent we've drafted or lured here. Our defense plays with lackluster effort many times and I've noticed that since Shaq was gone (after he was injured and all) that players were often out of place. Shaq appeared to be coaching on the field at times. Honestly, I want to see us transition back to the 4-3. We've never successfully transitioned to the 3-4 and we've been trying hard to do it since Tepper took the reins.

Stumbled across this guy. Really like his style.

Greg Olsen got shipped off by Chicago to us because they didn't realize the time involved in making the transition.

Me, too. I was expecting to see some single digit scores there. Still, really glad to see Tremayne make the list. He played very well while he was in there. Big guy. And good grades for our ILBs. We need some hope there, even if they are second and third stringers. That QB room, though. It's going to need realignment by next season if not sooner.

And a linebacker who was the management student of the last guy who was GM here. That guy wasn't exactly football Yoda. And Morgan was never the brightest bulb in the bin. Remember how he used to make sure that he took the head off of every rookie LB during the first training camp day? Ended one guy's career. Then, well, Morgan himself had to call it a career because of concussions himself. We could have done better somewhere out there for a manager choice. We just let the last guy fall on his sword and promoted his caddy.

Okay, I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Are we not allowed to look at the product that has been put on the field and say "That doesn't look good, not good at all."? And the comment about the owner and picking coaches that aren't intimidating is actually a very pointed statement about potentially why we aren't doing well and, GOING BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, might very well explain why we have an effort problem. Football is about imposing your will on the other guys, it is about extreme effort, guts, toughness, determination. It is a street fight every game at this level. And, well, we've had some real, well, pussies for the last couple of coaches. I'm still holding out that this one might have something to whip our rather lackluster team into something competitive. But, I think, I see, that Tepper has chosen analytics guys and confidence builders over hard work and culture guys. And I think it's because those first types make him feel more in charge. But hey, I was on topic, but you dragged the other thread into here.

No, I disagree. I think that it reaches right to the core of what is happening with the team, the fanbase and then filters down to the Huddle. We're all in here just gnashing our teeth because, well, there ain't much cheering left to do at the moment. Give us something to believe in and this crowd will be back trading high fives and being all rah rah. Right now, though, I've been on this board for 16 years and I've just watched the fanbase slide into this malaise. It sucks.

Nah, our last three head coaches were a bag of wet socks. Fox, Rivera coulda whooped all three in a fight by themselves. Heck Capers probably still can and is waiting for a shot. Seifert... maybe.

Oh, and I think we hire coaches that the owner isn't physically afraid of.

We'll know by week 3 if it is time to just blow this whole thing up and try to get in on the Mike Tomlin bidding wars. We've been the most lackluster team in the league for almost a decade now. Remember when we tried to win pre-season games because YOU fuging TRY TO WIN EVERY fuging GAME?????? Now we just want some smooth vibes going into the season.

We've been worn down. Ground to nothing. I've always been one of the "it's going to work out, have some faith" guys on this board. Last guy off a sinking ship and all that. Folks, I've had a lot of health issues this year and it dawned on me after the last preseason game, I may just not have another year left in me, and I sure as hell don't want to spend much time from it watching this same old poo go down again. I've loved this team, still do, but there's got to be something from them for me to continue with this. This relationship has become toxic for me and well, I may hit the eject button early in the Panther's season to go and see other things in life. I don't believe in Mushy-head Morgan building a team, he was the dumbest linebacker of his group here. I sure as hell don't believe in the team ownership, just another bunch of carpet-bagging Northerners coming down here and telling us how we were doing it all wrong. I barely believe in Coach Canales but think he's been saddled with terrible OCs and DCs and position coaches because that's all that would come here. I'm just fuging tired of this. And from the sound of the board, I'm not the only one who is feeling ground down.

Like it would even help...

I sure hope you're right.