kungfoodude

And it will cure all the bitching, moaning and complaining that people unironically bitch, moan and complain about. Give us two straight fuging winning seasons, and watch how much nicer this place will be. Watch how much easier free agency will be. How is anyone excited about tanking for *insert player*? That poo is not fun.

How you made these logical leaps through this thread is amazing. Bravo.

You aren't a fan of this franchise and you know that you aren't a fan of this franchise. 90+% of your posts literally directly relate to your ex-players, Sam and Robby. If you are here in 4 years and know anything about this team, I'll be stunned. So, prove me right or wrong. It's your choice.

That's a pretty small portion of the fans. Typically that works on kids but not adults. Player surfers just surf to the next spot with their player or they find another player to surf with. You build your fan base by winning or existing in the community for decades, so that loyalty is generations deep.

This is just a super weird hill to die on. The "THESE fuging YOUNG PEOPLE" and "WELL THEY DON'T DO IT THE WAY I AM USED TO" rants are just comical. Every generation of old people say that same poo with zero sense of self awareness.

Dude, that has existed for the entire existence of professional sports. fug, that has existed for the entire existence of currency. Some people get what they want and then they rest on their laurels. That isn't evidence of some mass generational issue. Did you not see the videos of Jaycee Horn working out all offseason with other NFL DB's? Did you not hear about Daniel Jones going to the Manning camps to get better? This poo is no different than anywhere else. Some suck at their jobs and don't give a poo, some are amazing and strive to the best and the rest are somewhere in between.

No one made you into a troll, you decided to be a troll. Arguing PJ vs. Sam is just sad. Sad for you and even more sad for the franchise. Here is a real question, what are you going to do with your time when PJ Walker isn't on the roster anymore(likely next offseason)?

Yeah, that's a little more "old man yells at the sky" kind of stuff. I don't think that has much to do with it at all. You are also talking about recreational sports versus competitive sports. Go watch some 6-17 year olds play AAU sports. That is a completely different world.

Dude, they are both trash. PJ is just here because our coach has a boner for his ex-players. He didn't get on this team by being worthy of it. There is absolutely zero reason to defend Sam Darnold, he's fuging terrible and was a massive mistake to bring in. There is absolutely zero reason to defend PJ Walker, he's fuging terrible and isn't worthy of a roster spot. Stop defending and pushing the PJ Walker thing, it's annoying. It was funny at first but funny things aren't funny when they are super, super repetitive. That's literally Comedy 101.

Mathieu isn't wrong. Fans are more toxic these days because people are more toxic. That is directly tied to these social media platforms that they all participate in. That is the reason why more and more famous people(and not enough regular people) are getting off these things. Because they are inherently toxic and breed toxicity.

Basically. Good players are not typically beating down the doors to sign with the worst teams in the NFL.

"Just shut up and play" is just as dumb as "just shut up and watch." It doesn't help that he put that out on the platform that he was most likely getting trolled on. They are just going to double down now that they know it gets to him.

Rodgers would never play a down in Carolina. I have absolutely zero doubts he doesn't want anything to do with us at his age. He's likely just retire if they traded him to us. Also, no one is going to trade for Aaron Rodgers. He has one year left on his deal at a whopping $46 mil. All everyone has to do is basically wait for him to get cut this offseason, which is almost certain to happen. Watson is possible if he wants to come here and Caserio comes to his senses. I see the first as mildly unlikely and the last as extremely unlikely. Wilson isn't coming here. Period. Tua would be an option if Watson goes to Miami, ASSUMING he isn't included in that deal(which I have to assume he would be). I have mixed feelings about Tua, so I wouldn't want to give up more than one 1st rounder for him. Carr I would be completely down to get. He's exactly the kind of guy that would probably thrive in this offense, he has a cheap last year of his deal(2022), and he is reasonably young(30). However, I wouldn't give up the farm for him and he is going to want a contract extension, so I also don't want to be giving him top 5 money, salary cap jump or not. I'd LOVE to have Carr but there is also a price limit.

This is mostly true but some people who are clear trolls should get booted. The PJ Super Fan, he was mildly amusing at times but eventually that gets old too. Sort of like that sanjay dude that kept spamming every thread with a crudely drawn play for a TE pass. He was fine but the repetitive schtick just got old for everyone eventually. Chuck is another great example(current form @Squid Game). He is mostly okay but then he eventually flips out and gets himself banned....again. But, if you can get an alt and eventually behave, no harm, no foul!

He was largely a bust in his career and had lots of production in his contract year. The market is usually fairly wary of guys that have that career arc. His role changed quite a bit to aid that production but I can understand the skepticism. Plus, he doesn't fit the mold of what a lot of teams would necessarily want in an EDGE guy.

All the Florida teams suck except Tampa. I don't think the NFL needs to do anything about it. There are enough loopholes in the federal and state tax codes to drive an 18 wheeler through, especially if you are rich or wealthy. People still want to play in various areas for various reasons and not everyone cares as much about the tax implications as others do.

I do wish we had the ability to attract a better class of OL. That's another big worry. They might have mismanaged that unit so badly, we will struggle to get anyone worth a fug in free agency. We HAVE to be able to get better in free agency because it will take multiple drafts to fix that unit.

Yeah, luckily this trash OL is only protecting the likes of Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold and PJ Walker. Those guys have zero future for this franchise. For all the guys that wanted a QB in this past draft so badly, can you imagine putting your rookie investment through this poo? I am actually somewhat thankful we aren't seeing Cam 2.0, where we abuse him until he is broken. This is more like the Jimmy Clausen year(s). Shuffling turds while you get it figured out.

And those guys are absolutely available to us but are those the players you want to sign? If your sole motivation is getting your money I, FOR SURE, don't fault you. However, I probably don't want you as the core part of the winning team I am building because you aren't here to win, you are here to get paid.

I think the biggest part of not being able to attract top talent(which we all really mean QB talent, even though we aren't saying it) is just not being a good team. Like you said, we HAVE been able to attract top guys when we had a team built for success but we don't have that currently. If we don't implode in the next couple of seasons, I think we are building towards that. If you look at the 2023 free agent QB class, there will be many opportunities to sign big time free agents at QB. But we have to show that we are worthy of being a team that a free agent can come to and thrive.

Well Belichick did start his NFL career with a 41-55 record in his first six seasons. Maybe by the end of Rhule's career he'll figure out how to cheat properly as well! I will say this, if we do become the Pats, I FOR SURE want to face them in the Super Bowl to cheat them out of a victory. It's only fair.

Meanwhile, Browns fans are like......

The further in the rearview the Whitworth thing is, the larger it is. We'll never know if we were ever an option or if we ever contacted him, but the Whitworth vs. Kalil comparison is one for the ages. A HOF caliber player vs. one of the biggest busts in franchise history.

It was a Twatter post so he was undoubtedly getting trolled and it was clearly successful. Zero idea why people still use Twatter.

Play like an NFL QB. Darnold has rarely ever played like an NFL QB and PJ has never played like one. The odds of either of those happening are lottery-esque.