kungfoodude

I have no issues with Dalton on a few games. If Bryce is out long term, that's probably a different discussion. I am just not in the camp that believes Dalton is washed up. Not as good as his prime, absolutely. I mean, the arm difference between him and Bryce just yesterday was pretty obvious. Not much of a bar, I do realize that. Still, I would say give it a chance next week. If he looks absolutely washed and Bryce is out for a while, pivot to another option.

If he keeps that play up, for sure. Long season. We need him to sustain it.

I am not in the camp that thinks you are gonna see better offense with Winston/Howell than Dalton. Dalton is a somewhat TO prone gunslinger, those two guys have never seen a window or coverage situation they wouldn't throw into. We really don't have the receiving corps to be snagging those kind of wrestling match balls, IMO. Sure, in a different scenario, I would have been all over Flacco. He can at least run and offense and not cripple us with TO's. That's the issue I have with the gunslinging TO machine, we have already proven we are really capable of losing when our current TO machine QB does exactly that(5 TO's in the 3 losses, 4 TO's in the 4 wins).

If that were true the Geno Smith stories would be all over the place. Also, the league would be flooded with extremely capable QB's, which it assuredly is not. Don't get me wrong, I am sure some QB's have literally been ruined by their circumstances. David Carr comes to mind. But I do think that is the far rarer case. Most of these guys just aren't good enough. It is what it is.

I am not sure how you got to "every game" but okay. What he isn't suppose to do is have 50 yds in 4 games. Especially as a first rounder.

Jameis and Howell will extremely effectively lose games. Unsure if they will lose them more effectively than Hooker. I am just not seeing the benefit for adding a third string QB. We aren't gonna tote a third stringer all season, I would think.

I mean two of those guys are literally starting for their teams so you can eliminate them as a possibility. Hienicke is not on an NFL roster. We can literally just sign him. Garopollo is the primary backup for an oft-injured QB, so unless they really like Stetson Bennett, I am not sure how viable that is. Also, Garopollo is literally worse than Dalton and significantly more injury prone.

I mean we did literally build an entire offense specifically around him and crafted a historically bad defense as a direct result. I think the larger issue is the QB panic in the overall NFL. It makes some of these QB's get drafted WAAAAAAY too high and often in places where development isn't going to happen. You gotta play because they drafted you that high. Other people's careers are literally in the hands of that decision. Yes it can definitely wreck some QB's but IMO the overwhelming majority of those guys that end up busts....they were always going to be busts. I mean, Jayden Daniels didn't bust. Drake Maye didn't bust. Those guys were drafted by bad teams too. So, if Cam Ward is gonna work out he will work out. If Bryce is gonna work out, he will work out. If Michael Penis Jr. is gonna work out, he will work out.

He was a first round draft pick. Those are literally the type of games he is supposed to have.

It's his third team that he has played terrible for. It's not them....it's him. Tyrod was immediately better, TO's or not. Not sure what to think of Geno. He is having the same sort of year I was honestly predicting Darnold to have. His performance is truly shocking. Still expect Classic Darnold to show up but that turnaround has been a real surprise.

He is absolutely as bad as he has shown. When you can't read the football field and just hold on to the ball trying to figure it out, it's probably not gonna work out.

Maye was my #2B QB in that class. Daniels was clearly the best(and has been). But it didn't matter at that point. Bryce was already here and Chicago had our #1 draft pick. Typical Panthers.

Yeah, Hooker is really quite bad. Those other guys are definitely not good either but still better than Hooker. There aren't a bunch of Joe Flacco's around. There are a bunch of guys who can very effectively kill salary cap space and lose games really, really badly. This is the same message board that has brought such recent takes such as, "We should trade for Jake Browning!" or "We should try and get Anthony Richardson!" No. fuging....NO.

He is basically Taysom Hill, IMO.

I think it's the same crowd that was also pining after Anthony Richardson. It's the Forever Cammers that literally think every physical freak of a running QB is the next Cam. Cam was great not because he was an insane athlete but a very good QB, as well. Most of these athletic freaks don't magically become a Cam, Lamar, Josh Allen, etc.

I was a Lance guy too but he needs to be on a team as a 2nd stringer continuing to learn. His best bet is a Geno Smith type turnaround and that is pretty rare. Not saying that ship has sailed, but it's pretty close to the breakwater and headed towards open sea.

I am definitely not a believer at all but if he keeps having games like that, everyone will believe.

Would rather dig in the FA pile than make some stupid trade. If we make a panic trade, the Dan/Scott Fitterer link will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I am so fuging sick of all this nonsensical trade BS.

Shocked the hell out of me with that performance. His mostly warts still but if he can get his head right, maybe he can make a believer out of us all. Great to see it. Hope it continues.

No, I am glad we didn't draft Fields. With the idiots we have had running the show since he was drafted that kid would be on an 8 year, $65 mil AAV contract.

Randy Fasani, Matt Moore, Kyle Allen, Will Grier, Matt Corral.....oh all the future HOF players that just needed their shot!

Fair but this is after being a bust over and over and over again. How in the fug do people get fooled by that bad of a QB? It's like looking at AR and saying, "I can fix him." No. You can't.

I will never understand how anyone(like yesterday) could make any logical argument Bryce isn't better than Fields. That guy cannot read a defense at all. And don't let people mistake this for some pro-Bryce rant. Bryce is also not a starting caliber NFL QB. But good God does Justin Fields keep getting chances for literally zero reason.

No. Stop with the panic. Keep the draft resources. I know you guys all love Scott Fitterer but fuging stop being him all the time.

I mean, don't be shocked if we look much better through the air with Dalton at QB. He is a more talented QB than Bryce. It's gonna be about how well we protect him, if the run game stays cooking and if he deals with TO's. He's a gunslinger, so that does lead to INT's.