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I mean, the vintage Sean Payton offense is what it is. That's why I talk about the bomb throws. It's part of it. Which is why every week Nix is launching it 30+ yards downfield. The threat and consistency of that is part of what makes that thing tick. Small ball is hard when you don't have that. An old Brees was able to pull it off at the end simply because he was GOAT. Young QBs can't just play small ball. If they do, it means defenses cheat on routes/coverage...which we have seen a lot with Bryce. I don't know what the Canales O is. Maybe there isn't some set O. I know what he did in Tampa and what we do here this year....aren't the same.

I mean, the reality is Hubbard stayed on the field and Connor went down in the 3rd. That's why the Panthers won. The whole this QB outplayed that QB simply because one team won just isn't always the statement some make it to be. So many factors out there for each. College football playoff this weekend, the by far best QB performance of the weekend was a losing QB. He wasn't outplayed by the other QB. The other team was simply better than his team.

I mean, he wouldn't. Bryce doesn't naturally fit that O. It's not the old man Brees offense. That's the one Bryce techincally fits. Brees could only pull that off because he was a certified HOF. It's the young Brees O. The haymakers have never been Bryce's game. Not even college. Bo Nix is throwing them every week. That's part of why the small ball works in that setup so well. Because the bombs are randomly coming. D can't just play the small ball.

big time throws is sort of a weird stat though given what how they define them. I don't pay for PFF anymore. Pro football reference has a disturbing amount of bad throws accounted to Bryce Young's name though given he sat for a big chunk of the season. #8 in poor throws despite 23rd in pass attempts. I mean, his strength really isn't his strength IMO. He sort of just an odd ball in many ways. Best part about Bryce is how slippery he is to date IMO.

Bo Nix is bascially executing the Payton/Brees offense each week. With the signature bomb throws mixed in of the young Brees years. Every week he is consistently chucking it deep deep. He also is a rookie and wasn't that wasn't the #1 overall pick. I mean, Bryce might be able to do some Russell Wilson moon balls and mix that in once we get better talent. I still think a lot of NFL throws are off the table given the setup he would need to get the ball there.

guess it depends on what you mean by franchise QB. I don't think he can be that at this stage. I think he can be as serviceable starter. Just lacks the tools at this level to meet my definition of a franchise QB. I do think he will be our QB for a couple years as we try to build up a respectable overall team/roster.

I mean, that is the definition of a safe gameplan coupled w/ Hubbard. It's all check downs or throws to the outside and away from coverage.

true, but it's a tough reality to accept often that it's all we can ask for....from the #1 overall pick, we gave up the farm for, in year 2.

the gameplan was very QB friendly. That aspect has a lot to do w/ the odds of ending up w/ a good grade. Heavy run w/ a safe/conservative pass plan.

we need a defensive heavy draft. I'm still on the double up Carter train. Penn St Carter in the 1st and Clemson Carter in the 2nd. Front 7 players. Maybe corner in the 3rd.

Media figured out at Auburn what types of clicks they can make off of Cam and it never stopped. A towel on the head!!!!!!!!! Unhappy after a loss. Meanwhile Tom Brady out there throwing temper tantrums that by 4 year old was taking notes on. Competitive drive.

it's the overpromotion factor in play. Every great QB coach isn't supposed to be a great OC. Every great OC isn't supposed to be a great HC. Ron Rivera was a very good DC in the NFL.

I've conceded Bryce is the QB for the foreseeable future. And what we are presently seeing, is basically the dude we drafted. A game managing point guard attempting to grow and be better at that. Bryce Young simply doesn't have the tools to be playmaker. That's not what he is. We will have to slowly acquire playmaker for him to distribute the ball to. Hopefully that plan leads to a the creation of a solid football team and when we reach that point....then most likely will then have to go find a QB to plug into that.

Cam Newton was the most scrutinized player of the last 2 decades. And it started before he played a down and never stopped.

Tepper has never shown a frustrating level patience with anything. Fair to say it was Dave’s decision or at the least stamped by Dave to bench Bryce Young 2 games into this season (which was barely 1 full season of games before he was basically willing to move on). Bryce got back do to injury and sort of slowly got the spot back by default/no choice. Nothing is actually a given going forward. Dave is a bad owner. Dave does apparently see meh on football field and generally moves away from it. Issue is always the new direction he chooses isn’t always wise. But he throws away weak hands quicker than almost anyone in the NFL

Brady and Mahomes are just anomalies amongst the great QBs Brady has more rings than Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Marino, and on and on combined…..not because he is in a different league than them but the teams he was on were vs theirs. Better coaching, defense, etc.

Agree. I’d add Injuries too. But a good QB over the course of a full season largely can get you to the dance more often than not. And heck, just getting a little lucky comes into play often once your in

I’m in favor of never getting players from the Jets

Tom Brady skews the reality of things. By a lot. Mahomes now by a little. Rodgers got them to the postseason 11 times and won more than he lost. Peyton Manning really just has 1 too. He was warm body gifted a farewell gift. Just trash for his 2nd. I think you a basically want your QB to get you to dance about 4-7 times. That’s a good QB. How the dance shakes out depends on so many things.

Has anyone in Panther history really had that big of a swing? He went from being one of the most popular with fans to near villain

Clemson sure does own a lot of real estate out there https://x.com/sec/status/1870655976212496550?s=46&t=f55N0zsNFevD-XGJBWj1-A I mean it’s sort of weird that the official SEC account is thinking so hard…about them 12 seeded Clemson Tigers I guess they didn’t like Cade Klubnik maybe exposing yet again that often these SEC and also BIG10 defenses are often just sort of conference creations at the end? I do think the college playoffs have often shown that many times. Clemson might of lost but over the last decade they sort of have made a habit of proving the SEC Ds are built different narrative is sort of a conference creation. Hell they went into a game with tiny Hunter Renfrow out wide at #1 because of injury and cooked the Bama D once. Cooked the hyped greatest Bama team of all time allegedly with a freshman WR/Freshman QB year.m another year. With no threat of rushing the ball, Texas should have held Clemson to virtually no offense yesterday. Guess they salty about that trend or something

Red headed step child? Gamecock fans when they have won 2 of the last 10 by a grand total of 4 points in a series dominated by Clemson

AP and Coaches poll didn’t have to worry about optics …. which is why every other poll that wasn’t the CFP committees’ had full chest out Carolina Gamecocks behind Clemson, SMU and Bama. So it’s not like the CFP had some unique anti-Gamecock bias Dabo didn’t do Beamer dirty. Dabo said the only thing an ACC coach could say.

I watched it the first time. What stood out for me is the same thing that stood out yesterday. Clemson can’t tackle humans running.

SC finds a way to BARELY sneak past Clemson, who doesn’t play defense anymore….now suddenly you think SC is King Kong? SC wasn’t going to go into Texas and do anything different. Score less points. Allow less points. Result would have been the same most likely. So realistically, SC would have had 4 SEC losses on the year, could they of put an SEC in over SMU? Maybe. But it’s probably not yall. It’s Bama. And SC clearly doesn’t have the O to be a legit threat in a college football playoff this year. There is no great tragedy.