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That’s not really something Bryce Young does well. Why not use preseason to improve what you don’t do well. We didn’t have that in the arsenal last year. So yeah, Panthers need to find that vertical play and it’s got to be developed IMO. Not sure our bad D is the only place things should be worked on against. Heck maybe even hitting it in a pointless game could make teams respect it more back off because they clearly don’t worry about it all IMO. we know BY can throw fades to the sideline. We and he play too much to the sideline IMO and that probably should be XL on this O in theory. Not sure TMac is that type WR but it would have been nice to see what TMac actually has in the tank for that type ball.

lol. I mean it’s the same stuff every year boss. All the way down to what folks say when folks ain’t drinking the ole kool-aid. I still think worst org in ALL of pro sports still has a weak overall team. I don’t need the Panthers to be good. I have been around for all the seasons too. Probably only a super fan since 03 though. Sports fandom is a nice fun healthy hobby in a world full of bad ones. The Carolina Panthers haven’t put me in a bad mood since I had kids and now I got them in high school. Only bad play that really bothers me is my kids lol If you want a list of what I am excited about in Carolina this year? Hunter Renfrow’s comeback (fingers crossed). Coker. Hubbard. Derrick Brown. Hoping for a rookie to surprise. Don’t really care who. I like Canales. Hope he can survive long enough to actually see something get built the way he wants to play (not sure about that given Tepper). Hopefully the weak division and schedule lets us flirt with .500. And I’m still a believer in XL. Didn’t like that nonsense last night at all.

Browns were the 19th ranked D. 27th in points allowed 30th in takeaways only thing made up, is you pretending the Browns D didn’t stink last year and that we didn’t play the backups of a bad team

The 3 win Browns had the #19 ranked D last year boss (27th in points) . I mean they weren’t the Panthers but our starters facing their 2nd and 3rd stringers isn’t a test of anything. I just don’t do this thing some do every single year without fail trying to manifest us into something we haven’t shown to be. I’ve called the last couple years pretty dang well going into each and every one dating all the way back to year 2 of Rhule

The entire Browns D was scrubs and it’s a weak to to begin with. Saying we had a backup in at one spot doesn’t make it all a wash and mean much. And the sack to me wasn’t the G being a flood gate. Browns played it well. So that’s a big fat F on series 1. second series gets a ding for XL. They get a ding in the redzone too. TMac drop and then the backups shutdown the 3rds and goal. Which means we got lucky when it broke down part to a degree. So that TD has both good and bad to it. One really bad drive and one okay one if looking at the little things and not just the TD occurring.

Starters got smashed their first series by backups they only had one drive after that. XL was an idiot. We got to 3rd and goal and it took a play falling apart and scrabble drill to get in after dropping at wide open TD. that doesn’t seem like an A. You can find some good in it. But overall?

It’s not the only thing that matters. YAC isn’t all that matters. Being able to get vertical annd bust an D open isn’t all that matters. But when you start adding up all the things you can’t do…..you end up with a weak pass O that doesn’t scare anyone (and that becomes your good). We couldn’t do either last year and thus far haven’t shown we can now and there is nothing elite about a driving the field once against backups and their backups on a team that won 3 games last year after getting embarrassed the drive prior….and it taking a 3rd down play breaking down to finally get it in. Carolina good, elite and electric are unique definitions to Carolina (the worst pro team in all of sports under Tepper).

I’ve seen that throw before. BY does it all the time. He fades everything into the sideline. It’s part of why we have one of the lowest threatening Os in the league. It makes for tough catches. Almost every QB in the league can make those two redzone throws. Now they can’t all get to the ad lib scramble drill part. Lot of that is just luck because the play has gone out the window. the only really nice aspect of Bryce’s game is he does have some nice wiggle and ad lib ability. And I always say that. But he is tiny so that is sort of cursed blessing. you can lecture me for not knowing football. People do it pretty consistent this part of the year for the last several years. but yeah it was a great catch by TMac. TMac was one on one vs a backup with NO ONE over the top….it was also an opportunity to see if TMac can really get vertical in this league which is a question mark. Either the throw or playcall took that away. Maybe it was never a real go ball call. His highlights to date largely have been with dudes (backup types) all over him making really tough grabs when he gets vertical opportunity

I’m Bill Murray and this is Groundhog’s Day at this point….. the bar in Carolina is weirdly low at this point. And Carolina good and actual good IMO are too different statements at this point. it’s like calling BY electric. Only Panther fans would call that electric IMO

Yeah, Canales is our playcaller. He is just as green behind the ears as some of our other youngster. I didn’t like that either. And then it just ends up being an excuse of why it was a botched warmup opportunity in so many ways.

I think that’s just apologist gymnastics in all honesty. The helmet is smooth? Ok. when people show you they are really dumb….i just tend believe them. No matter the uniform. It being a backup scrub defender 5 plays into this season given where he is on this roster…..says a lot more about his head space and composure at this point in time than his “fire” for me. nothing is the end of the world. But anyone watching the Panthers working on things thus far off that game shouldn’t be overly impressed about what Tepper is about to give the world…..again.

That’s the new present day Panthers though. And Bryce Young. It’s not that we don’t get YAC. Even Bryce’s bigger throws are conservative. Which is why that TMac throw annoys me so much. Sitting here watching the Bills uncork one deep for a TD going into half….Bryce throwing everything to a sideline fade and always lowering the ceiling of things. Bryce isn’t making that throw. He is going to steer the WR out of bounds

You can largely track the meaningless preseason warmups…..and our good seasons we largely had respectable warmups which lead to us winning at least half of them.

Not sure how one drive by our starters playing the 2nd and 3rd stringers of a team that won 3 games last year….indicates our starters are on track. And their backups 3 and outed us on 50% of our drives. fans are doing the same thing we do every year of the Tepper era. Manifesting a good team when there is no evidence yet of such IMO

The logic of Bryce looked terrific and then say BUT keep in mind Sanders did what he did vs backups…..is some type of logic

They shouldn’t be capped like that. 3 series could be just 1 quarter. that’s still too light for me given why we are in Carolina. That’s still Dave being too light in the preseason heading in IMO. Much better teams than us work there guys more and I think if you look at our starters last night…..you would have to like overall what the Browns 2s and 3d did slightly more against our starters than what our starters did to them

That’s not fire. Losing your poo on a backup defender basically 5 plays into the intro of the season and risking your entire season by throwing hands all over the place at a helmet……isn’t fire. It’s senseless stupidity that we are trying to pretend is something else. and I was pimping XL harder than almost everyone on this board coming into the game/season

Which is my issue. It’s not much of an identity paired with a league bottom defense.

You can still throw a legit go route vs 2nd or 3rd stringers. TMac should be able to go do that and should be testing that stuff out IMO. Im just saying in test it out world type game which….they didn’t really test much out. Didn’t learn much.

zero YAC from starters. Still waiting for evidence we can be something other than a low ceiling offense (which is what the Dave O was). People tripping out over that TMac catch. It’s was a great catch. But essentially it is classic Panthers play under Bryce. A go route opportunity. Turned out to be fade to the sideline. Threat of nothing after the catch. Incomplete or catch given where the ball was placed.

That sack wasn’t on the OL IMO https://x.com/tjrt9s/status/1953964808703029454?s=46 Browns just played it well. Might could argure he should have anticipated XL crossing toward the sideline but I don’t know. Just seemed like good defense by the Browns and not much there when the ball should have come out. BY stepped up and tried to squirm through and couldn’t. Just a nice rep by the Browns.

Stars Coker I honestly don’t think anyone actually impressed but him. Star for me implies more than just being status quo or meeting reasonable expectations. Coker actually should have made a roster spot jump tonight. I think you got to at least temporarily demote XL. He got to earn it back

we might need to talk about one of the big boys on the Clemson d line pretty soon. Both project in the top 10 AKA our normal spot.

89 never misses a chance to be a jerk. It’s just DNA with him.

I don’t really follow it. Not sure how she would’ve been part of 89 cheating on her with a Ravens employee. I’m assume she has some self respect and leaves a chronic jerk after the year is over.