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Renfrow can cleanly field punts. He isn’t going to house it but can get some yards

The starters only played in one game last year and that was vs backups. One drive. They scored on it. But it wasn’t crisp. Browns backups got a 3 and out with a sack. That’s bad. And it took a play breaking down scramble drill to find the endzone the 2nd drive. That’s not the type action I want vs 2nd and 3rd stringers. It means the Browns shut down the initial play Im not overreacting but painting this as drastically something different and new is getting over the skis. They didn’t look great given how much the deck is stacked for them IMO. But it’s just one preseason outing.

This is the Browns 2nd and 3rd string vs our starters. Hard to tell much given that disparity

XL is stupid. All he did was put his hands at risk for getting broken. Brown defender smart enough to try to pry XL’s helmet off. Canales’ team looking bad so far. 89 full of poo. That’s not a good look. TMac making a great catch while blanketed on a go route isn’t offsetting this thus far

That’s a great catch. But I really want to see TMac separate

3 and out with a sack for Browns backups vs our starters. Nice

wait, this is the Browns 2s and 3s on defense?

wonder if the overreaction/freakout threads can hold off until the end of the preseason game or starts before half?

Sanders just can’t help but be unlikable. Enters BOA with his entourage playing his own theme music and one of them carrying a Grimm Reaper scythe. dude is 4th in the depth chart coming in.

I think the perfect formula is about a quarter in game 1 and about a half in game 2. Then rest. Pending you don't have superstars. Rest them.

I don't know what a pro style O in college is at this point. Everything sort of morphs including what a NFL O now. There was a time when no one would have considered what Colorado did pro style. I still think Colorado choose not to run more than anything and did some token running. I can't be convinced the whole scheme and playcalling wasn't simply to tie every amount of O back to Sheduer Sanders. I mean, then his dad immediately then retired his son's number at Colorado? That jersey retirement IMO sort of gives the game away about what they really were doing in Colorado IMO. Think overall Deion's help really started to hurt him. I don't think he was a 1st rounder but also not a 6th. Probably inbetween.

I think games rarely meet hopes and what we want to see. I think most are wanting to see Tmac do a bunch of things and go off or something like that. I'm not sold Canales gives us a lot of the "main" guys. I think the MVP of the game will be something like Etienne grinding through the 2nd half and busting one.

Lamb and Pickens playing together in their primes. we never really had prime 89 and Moose though. We basically had them paired up in 89's intro season to the NFL in 2003 and they paired back up when Moose was in year 13

then it's followed up by a long pass to Dionte Johnson for a touchdown board crashes

pretty much. I only watch the Panthers. I would tune in to see Ward and Sanders in a preseason game for a minute or two though. Only rookies would ever have me tune into another team's preseason game. I'm sure media is just playing the proper promotion card because they can get people to tune into this one.

TMJ presents the issue w/ drafting role players on powerhouse teams. You don't know how good they are. because they are almost in can't fail situations. His best season was with Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase.......heck, I could go out there and catch a pass because no one going to think about me.

eh, blaming XL for the losing the Eagles game is like blaming a kicker for missing the kick at the end of the game and ignoring all the other massive bad play that came before the final bad play he should of caught the ball. That drop IMO has been drastically over sold in the XL hate. Given the QB play on the year on his role and situation he was in as a rookie. after that drop, we still converted the next play on 3rd down to setup a first. We then essentially gained 1 yard in the next 4 attempts. Philly took over after our failed 4th and 9 attempt. Lot of ugly in that game.

Panthers really got to get better on 3rd down. If you take a weak D.....and then your O can't stay on the field. It's going to be a really really bad D. Carolina was horrible on 3rd down and the O was 31st in TOP. They Oput a bad D on the field over and over. I don't put that all on Bryce. We need O skill guys that actually can do something with the ball in their hands. YAC play hasn't existed in Carolina. But that's also the Canales/Bryce conundrum. Canales is largely from a chunk play passing tree. Bryce best suits a YAC small game. And before anyone says it, yes, you have to do everything to some degree in any offense. But the key pieces aren't really natural fits. Obviously there is adjusting but it's sort of forced adjusting IMO

if Hurst or Tremble gets injured....neither injury should be brought up for why your team isn't getting it done. League is full of those type bodies. Even remotely well built teams should already have another of that calbier largely ready to roll. Or can just go get one.

The Wilks OL only got "improved" when they started playing 1970s football. They had showed exactly how flawed they were before that when asked to play like the present day. That's 1970s survival ball wasn't going to be played in 2023. Nobody really saw AT overperforming. I'd give you that. That was a super bland cast of done nothings and should be backups put into starting roles (Chark, TMJ, AT). Which was a legit worry for a rookie QB expected to start day 1. The main mental gymnastics done about the WRs is that since we didn't actually have anyone actually good.....it would be tough to defensively scheme to stop people with super point guard BY. With the all star staff, it was loudly stated by the minority it was actually just a bad retread hire (who didn't fit w/ BY at all)....largely only looking good given the comparable to idiotic Matt Rhule. It was also discussed about the random parts and too many chiefs in the kitchen. A Tepper arrangement of random people. Which isn't really how coaching staffs work. Hayden Hurst was just a NFL JAG TE. That's why we were his 3rd team in 3 seasons. Accounting for 400 and 200 yards in the 2 seasons prior. Expecting Hurst to matter is part of the gaslighting.

all star coaching staff best FA class of all time PG draft pick at QB. No D will be able to lock in on any WR. OL gonna pick right up from where Wilks left off so basically a top 10 OL Now, I do think the gaslighting was largely offensive. I don't recall much of the talk being on the D. *gif of me when I told people Miles Sanders was a bad add for us and at stupid price tag....because he was a bad rec back and was a product of the best OL in the NFL (and the Eagles had actually told the world that in their own actions).

I think Canales has us in the best culture from the top down vs those other years. Rhule was a fraud. Frank was cashing checks. I think there is also an overall plan in place that while missing parts….we are sailing into year 2 of it. So that also makes it different than those prior years. Vision. Consistency at coordinator levels. I think we flirt with middle of the road-ish. Weak division helps. 7ish wins. Maybe more similar to that 2020 team in terms of how we compete overall on the year. Respectable overall even though we might not hit the win total.

I feel better going into this season than I did in 2021, 2022, 2023 or 2024. And I'm largely deemed a pessimistic poster. So there is that for anyone keeping score.

I think we should bump some 2023 threads from this time of the year, right before preseason started. People LOVED that 2023 team. That was probably the highest the huddle has been post Cam. Now in hindsight.....people rightfully trash it.