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He started turning it on at the end of the prior year when you know….the Gameock QB actually started to throw the ball. Prior to that, a raw/developing WR player didn’t have much to a place on bad pass O. Like I said that starts getting into the window they were pulling coaches to be the QB at Carolina. Everyone’s timeline is different. 2023 matters way more than 2021.

I mean, did you watch the kid this season? Like I said, I’m a Gamecock hater. So I’m actually bringing bias the other way into this. But it’s hard to of watched this kid over the course of the year and not like the potential. and it’s hard to if liked a Mingo and not like this kid a lot more. So yeah, 2nd or 3rd pick seems like a good pick. We don’t need him to be a stud week 1. We got short term band aid vets right now. We need long term answers. my ideal draft was a Texas kid in the 2nd and Leggette in the 3rd. Now we got another pick between those. Not sure he falls that far anymore. But we have made way way way dumber picks than a Legette in that range

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Tough gig. Really tough when your sales pitch has to be.....but we are possibly working on letting you watch It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown at BOA.

maybe a Gamecock fan can speak on it....but from a Clemson fans perspective, once they basically opened Spencer Rattler up to pass at the end of 2022.....Leggette started to blossom. Before that? I mean Gamecocks were starting grad assistants at QB that were supposed to be on staff and dudes you wouldn't really call SEC passers like Doty IMO. It wasn't really a place to highlight someone like Leggette who IMO fits more aggressive pass play.

I mean, depends how you want to look at it. He can get separation vertically. He does need to work on his routes. There is rawness. I don't think he has peaked personally and I think he keeps getting better. There are worse picks we could make with our 2nd/3rd pick in the draft. But NFL open/contested catches is important. Some guys naturally excel at that. I think that is the takeaway there. 89 despite his size might be one of the best examples you can name at excelling at that and we took advantage of it. I think you are framing that as him just not being able to get open. I'm not saying use the 33rd on him. But one of our next two? Yeah, I like his potential. And I like it WAY more than Mingo coming out.

I don't trade pick 33. I don't trade any of our 2nd and 3rd round picks. I take the best BPA. We have a billion holes. Take whoever is #1 on our board when it hits. I'd prefer them to look at their offensive board and separate it from the D. the watered down Fitterer approach ain't going to sell with me.

Leggette's breakout season wasn't really comparable to Mingo's best season. Leggette was much more productive and better. Leggette needs work as a route runner...but his hands are one of his strengths. I mean, you can google Harrison Jr's hand size and wing span say the same thing about his arms and hands. Mingo's best season was middle of the road SEC play. Leggette's was one of the very best in the SEC. Both are a bit raw coming in. That's true. But Leggette's ceiling is different IMO. and I say that as true Gamecock hater. I actually like Gamecock WRs/DBs historically as NFL players. They have a tough life in the SEC playing atSC. They have often yielded decent returns.

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Yeah, he would be a no brainer in the 3rd IMO. Great NFL tools. Really seems to be trending up and still developing too. I think he has a lot more room to grow. I think another year of college likely would have him in the first round. and being a no good dirty Gamecock aside….I like his story. Rough life. Hard worker. Easy to pull for. And having dudes easy to pull for as people is part of the fun.

Argument there IMO that we created our own argument/logic simply by us being uniquely horrible Baker Mayfield went back to being Baker instantly when he got away from this dumpster fire. Everyone here was talking about what a drastically different QB Baker looked like with the Rams cold and not knowing that team. Then Baker goes to Tampa and is basically the same dude in Cleveland. Which wasn’t anything oddly unique. Nor was that Tampa offense. But Baker wasn’t Carolina Baker not in Carolina. and the pay scale is now skewed. 100m is average QB money. See a 13 year vet with 1 playoff win coming of an injury south of us with a nearly 200m deal in Cousins.

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Cam would be a backup but teams wary of his personality and the fact he likely put folks in odd spots IMO. even today, he said the Falcons should of signed him or Fields instead of that bonkers money to Cousins. And he is probably right. I think Fields would have been a technical smarter play once you factor in that money problem Cousin’s has high odds of creating.

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It’s hard to ignore. so when I say I have I no idea what we are doing? It’s Bryce centric. And there is no way to really escape that reality. How are we going to win with that. I haven’t heard or seen anything that makes me understand. From the jump last year I didn’t get how the coaching and talent coming together made sense. I’m still largely there. Bryce is such an anomaly…..the only way I see him working out as drafted is a very unique Bryce O from coach to talent around him

lol. I give zero poos. Mad is just a word because I’m lazy. you challenging my stance or Luke Combs? I got zero issue with Luke not getting it. Nothing more or less. Take all the issue with him not getting it you please. And I’ll just defend his stance as reasonable. Do I get what the Tepper Panthers have been doing and are doing? The answer is no. Feel free to challenge that if you want. I feel very comfortable with my position on that. I don’t think they have much of plan outside of trying to not be a joke at this point. most things IMO on the board often are just people using words and have different meanings to them. I don’t get what the Panthers are doing. As I said, I technically get the official plan. But overall? Yeah, I got no clue what the Panthers are doing at this point. I’m not sure they have really known either for some time. Which is why they basically have operated from a no man’s land the past several years in this ambiguous rebuild/win now position…while firing yet keeping when no man’s land does nothing for them.

I guess I use and view the language different. Take last year. Easier example. I understood the company line/plan I didn’t understand what they were actually doing though in reality. It didn’t seem like a plan that was well thought out and would work. So I didn’t get the plan. I largely feel the same. I get the official vague plan. I don’t see or know the actual vision/plans. They have not stated a plan where I then go….yeah, that should work and is a good vision/direction. all I have heard is run the ball and make Bryce 1 of 11. Just generic stuff. Nothing they have done makes me “get it” and understand an actual vision. either we are all on Bryce or we aren’t. And I’m not sure I get what we are doing on that. Straddling the fence? I don’t know. So I got no problem with a local celebrity not getting it.

Again, you’re mad because someone said they don’t understand what the plan is. That seems like a fine statement given it’s the Carolina Panthers. you could say the same thing last year. Plan was to fix the O. I didn’t understand what and why they were doing what they did then though We got a brand new OC. A one year OC first time HC who is calling plays and only called them one year for a meh offense built on vets. Tepper is Tepper. Lot of old faces from Morgan to Caldwell in house. What’s the plan for Bryce? Put him under C and run the ball like Wilks? A Miles/Hubbard O? Play action to Johnson? I don’t know what the plan is. That sounds like a bad one given Bryce is Bryce and what he supposed to be for us. I got no issue with someone not getting it. I’m glad you get it. Hopefully you are right. But I think not getting what we are doing is a fine take.

Last offseason folks were claiming the actions….created the best roster since who knows when and were making all sorts of 2011 and 2003 comparisons. Miles Sanders was Mr. Everything and all sorts of stuff. I didn’t buy it then.. Not buying anything I’m seeing now yet. Let’s see how the rest of the offseason goes. Actions? We are the worst professional sports team in America. Every year is a new sales job ending in the same results. do I know what we are doing? Nope. I know we spent the farm on an anomaly of a QB. And I have no idea if we have the coaches or talent to make that work. If the Panthers want to change the narrative many have….it can only be done on Sundays. Canales talks about running the ball. That doesn’t make me feel good when it is supposed to be about developing the anomaly #1 overall QB. Tampa sucked at running under Canales. People say he inherited the worst run game. They omit Brady had the #2 and #1 pass offense in the NFL prior, which would naturally limit the run to an extent. They were intentionally a Brady pass O.

I mean, I don't know what the plan has really been any season post Ron/Cam. Carolina says all sorts of nonsense. It hasn't been matching up. So I'm not sure you can expect people to take some offseason talk as some real vision plan at this stage given what these folks have been doing.

see, I think this is back to getting caught up in our reoccurring issue. The whole rebuilding yet win now team approach we have been every season since Tepper bought the team. What are we. We need young WR talent. Heck, we need offensive skill talent. This is the draft to add it. and if you want to land good vets down the road and not overpay? Well, the first thing to being attractive is a successful and good offensive outlook. It's an offensive league. Folks got to start thinking they can come here and win. I just think young offensive talent should be the focus. Even if the D goes backwards in the short term.

I think he was referencing some of those bleak pictures from games last year at the end. The type games Thomas Davis was sleeping through. I mean, I can't stand the dude. I did chuckle at him helping us out in that pic though.

I'd like us to draft a WR or even two in a deep WR class. We need long term solutions. I'd rather spend the remaining FA money in the trenches.

Well, we don't have a slot. That's like calling Miles Sanders a receiving RB. You can throw him the ball. He can catch it. But that's not what he is. Theilen isn't a good slot WR. We just play him there. He is slow. He has zero YAC. I mean, I'm a firm believer if you want to play football with Bryce Young....rec RB, TE, and slot are the big 3 key spots you have to have for him. And you need really good players there. Mike Williams is older. He is a short term rental. Why would signing him or Dionte Johnson who likely a one and done move.....prevent us from actually attempting to solve our massive WR hole in the big picture. this is a deep and good WR class and we need WRs.

I mean, this one is sort of funny after the back and forth about how we got no fans in the stadium OP somehow leaving Cam Jordan out of the call out. He is the one that got Merriman started. Division rivals just straight up clowning us out in the open. That's the bigger diss.