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I don't see Atl giving up a 1st for Fields. I think a team ends up getting a good deal on him in terms of a trade.... considering everyone will know Chicago has to get rid of him and then you have to pay him.

I've efficiently done Dan Morgan's job for him. Goal 1 - right a horrific and shameful wrong of the past 4 times over Goal 2 - looked forward to our 2025 rebuild for when we look to build around our 1st round pick in the 2025 draft.

I read that it was done between Aug-Nov of 2023. Which, Frank probably came off very well to guys that lived through the Rhule joke era. So that means the polling also took place before they actually got a taste of Frank the real NFL Panther HC. Don't even know if a game was played during that quirky window.

lot of where folks are drafted is just a matter of who is in their draft class and how desperate some teams are for some hope. Hurts IMO while the 4th best Bama QB.....wouldn't of been my 4th if they all were coming in together into the NFL. Maybe if he never transferred and his college career ended there he would have stayed. I've just never been wow'd by any of them for a long time. But I'm also a certified Bama hater (or at least was during that era)

it's just the KC players isn't that are impacting those grades. I mean, just because the team wins doesn't mean ownership couldn't be grade a d bags.

in terms of recent Bama QBs, just talking the college player I'd rank them Tua, Bryce, Mac, Hurts irrelevant side note, I'm still surprised with the strides Hurts made as a passer when he left Bama.

I mean, the head coach got an A - I don't know what to make of that. Guess it's a likeability survey more than anything. Nice people are going to score high?

the most successful window of our franchise's history? Nationally relevant? A bad game away from one of the greatest season's in NFL history? I mean, I'd take that ride again in heartbeat.

I mean, if you are just using statistics, it might be a tough sell that he was even the best SEC QB that year. I could argue he was the 3rd best QB in the SEC in 2022. IMO, Bryce Young was clearly trending downward after his initial season. I mean, he only played 2 so that's probably not the fairest way to view it but.

well, upon reflection I'd probably give him the nod in 2021 if I am being fair. I wouldn't in 2022. His last season is largely what was sticking in my head. but that's probably the only season in recent history where I would ever give the nod to a Bama QB.

well, I can't recall a single season in recent history where I viewed an Alabama QB as the best actual QB in college football. They have all been set up for stats and production as a by-product of having the best roster in football generally year over year. I'm not sure I have a concrete answer for who I think was the best on the spot. I'd have to think about it. There are tons of guys and it wouldn't just be who was leaving for the NFL. going into the draft, I was always clear that IMO Bryce Young had the lowest ceiling of any of the top 4 QBs that were talked about. He didn't have the skill set IMO to excel in the NFL. I thought his floor might of been higher. Which might still be true in a good situation vs some of them.

I don't believe Bryce Young was the best QB in college. I think he played for the best team/roster/coach in college. Which can lead to great or even the best statistical season. no coach is going to change the fact he is a physical anomaly at the position in the NFL.

and I'll still argue, Theilen wasn't actually good. He was a slow savvy vet playing the slot we force feed.....that basically gave you none of the upside you really would be looking for there. if you look at yards per catch by actual WRs.....it was checkdown down city overall on the year. You have to get to like WR # 60+ in terms of yardage on the year to find someone getting less per catch. Adam Thielen can't be our #1 focal point in the passing game IMO.

my best guess is Canales is largely just a players coach. I'd safely say a better present day playcaller than Frank Reich too. But I don't think he is some offensive guru. Which probably is what an anomoly like Bryce Young actually needs to have a shot at panning out.

very true. Routes and plays open for some NFL arms are definitely not open for others. That's where I think some of this discussion is blurred. You can't just look at separation time with no context. Diggs and Chark aren't going to be in comparable scenarios while NFL open..... Allen can laser a ball in during a tiny window and not be properly set. Bryce can't.

hard to feel super great when so many of the big brains and past decision makers.....are still in house fixing it. Tepper and Nicole are constants. Fitterer's right hand man is now the man. Game of Thrones mastermind and new hire helper Jim Caldwell is still advising. Old man Capers still here. A huge percentage of the old staff is still in house given Evero was retained. New face in the HC just doing standard coach speak. this just doesn't feel like a new chapter to me. Feels like a really bad franchise tweaked something because Frank wouldn't listen to them enough.

that's no high bar though. Hell, the Bears backup QB last season looked just as promising as Bryce Young.

personally, on the journey of getting old(er)....I have been really excited about the crazy and super growth of ear and nose hair.

a year ago, the board told me we were playoff bound baby!!!! with an awesome staff and one of the best rosters we have seen in a long time.

well, it depends on what you think of Bryce Young. I personally don't think he has the tools to be very successful at this level and his value will just keep dropping. And if you think that, his value is probably relatively high right now because you can blame it on Frank and that horrific O he called. it's year 2, and it certainly sounds like they have little interest in building a Bryce Young O. So what's the actual point? I mean, it's not going to happen but I'd just cut bait on the Bryce experience. He is too much of an anomaly physically and odds are against it ever working out.

yeah, you said both....but they didn't draft any pro bowlers pre Stroud. That was my point. then you list a bunch of defensive guys when this is clearly at the end of the day about offense and setting up your young QB to be successful. While a good D aids in winning games.....it really doesn't have much to do with how Stroud vs Young look as young QBs. I mean, we drafted Derrick freaking Brown. Who is better than all 3 of them. And if it's just a talent question, we drafted Horn. Who has it coming out the ears. Just seems like are grand effort to diminish how much better Stroud is/was than Bryce. the NFL is about QB/playcalling. The Texans had both. We had zero.

Pre Stroud, what Pro Bowlers did they draft? They have had 1 Pro Bowler in their OT and he wasn't drafted by them. a dude like Nico Collins wasn't doing anything before Stroud came along. most of the Texans biggest investment pre Stroud have been on the D. Texans drafted a legit QB and paired him with a legit playcaller. The secret sauce isn't complicated. You get that, you will have success in the NFL. We had neither.

I mean, I think Bryce Young will look better in a functional offensive scheme and paired with a competent play-caller. Frank Reich did no one any favors. but that alone isn't going to make me eat crow. Bryce Young was selected #1 overall and we gave up a ton for him. His bar is appearing to be special. Not a little better.

Bryce Young paired with our coaching was just horrible. Stroud wasn't walking in the door w/ good offensive skill players around him. going into last season, 90% of the board would have said Carolina was a better place to land. QB and play calling reigns supreme. Houston had it. We didn't.

We also don't have Marshawn Lynch. But yeah, Wilson scrambling out and gambling big downfield is what made that whole paring work. Not to mention the historic D. I hate when teams trying to model after other teams personally. I think Fitterer is the one that started the let's be like Seattle mindset. We don't need to try to mimic that formula.