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Yep. Frank conceded his coaches didn't agree with him. Which that admission hints at a pretty stark disagreement for him to concede that IMO. but yeah, no coach is then going to get on a microphone after that loss and say I disagreed with Frank on it. That defies even the most basic common sense. You rightfully should be fired if you do that. Only coaches IMO that Frank would have been discussing that with are Tabor and Brown. Sure wasn't worded like it was one voice against Frank. And it sure didn't look like the kicker was on board. I don't see Tabor lobbying to kick when his kicker wasn't on board. Tabor has already showed in his interim duties he factors in the environment in his game day decisions. Frank's defense of the decision was pure analytics and practice.

That's still going to be dependent on what his cost is though most likely. If you overpay a largely one dimensional player too much....it impacts what you can do with your defensive roster as a whole. Which is the Burns "problem". I still think Fitterer setup a scenario where Brian Burns walks out the door and we get nothing.

I don't think Burns was actually the best defender last year. He just had sacks. His liability factor counters a lot of that. I think Luvu and Brown actually jumped him last year. It's just carrying over this year. I think 2020 is the only season he was actually the best defender. Which wasn't a good defense.

I don't think it is that hard to replace him. With a horrific coach and outlook.....we easily went out and signed a better pass rusher than him and a better DB than anyone on the roster. It's hard to find a Miles Garrett type edge player that can do it. That's not Burns. In reality, there are lot of dudes that can rush the passer.

Mr. "In on every trade" lol. I'm sure the NFL makes sure of that at this point. No bigger sucker.

I think in Burns' entire career you could argue he was our best defensive player just once in his career in reality....and that ain't been recent. Not sure why folks keep repeating that at this point. Burns just has tenure over others. That's helping play into the narrative he is the best. When was the last time he was actually the best?

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Gilmore was one of those oddities IMO you just have to take advantage of. Like Tolbert. Think Gilmore was willing to just be near his family and was looking for that. We were like nah, we got a glass DB and an inconsistent Jackson. We don't need great and consistent DB play.

I think Richardson had a vision of what he wanted and did chime in on that. I don't think it's an accident that his teams were largely all very similar. Richardson also knew football. I don't think he was hands on outside of making sure the big picture was going to be what it was. I think Tepper thinks he can buy and rent a winner. I think he operates it very much like stocks. Well, I can just buy this one, sell that one. Profit overnight. I also think he operates on selling fools gold to his fans. Oh they are unhappy? Well, I'll trade for the #1 pick and hype up a bunch of stuff. The foundation remains bad. The plan remains bad. Love it or hate it, there has been no vision or plan in Carolina since Ron/Cam walked out the door. They had a plan. They had a vision. They committed to it. It worked to some degree. Fox was the same.

for me, the worst part is, this org has had no vision or horrific plans ever since folks like Fitterer arrived. everything is that. Love or hate Teddy, keeping him and drafting a QB made sense. They messed that up. Then the Sam Darnold era made zero sense. Instead of a depth chart project he was THE plan. Then they have Cam save us from our nightmare move that frankly made zero sense outside of getting fans off their back so they/we could have that farewell with him...and then they didn't even give us that. Then the pointless Baker era. Then the dysfunctional trade the farm for Bryce Young and give him no weapons or weapons that don't fit what he would be doing because somehow, because he doesn't need them. Scott Fitterer IMO wasn't qualified to come into a weak front office and build a team because he was a weak candidate to begin with. Came in here and IMO has thought he could somehow create some discount version of the Seattle LOB team. I think Horn was Fitterer. That's always what made sense. Think Bryce was Fitterer. Think the mindset you can have a discount O with a small QB and heavily invest in your D is Fitterer. But it was a whack vision. Seattled pimped Russell and the LOB. What made it actually work IMO was the ground and pound of Lynch. Dominant run game paired w/ a fluke D (in terms of how it all came together and how good it was. You can't build that intentionally).

Still think the bad needs to include making Sam Darnold THE plan. Picking up his 5th year for no reason.

Imagine if Thomas Davis didn't blow up his knee and we didn't waste his first couple years as at S. Davis might be 1b. with Luke.

I viewed TD as much more impactful than Beason. Not just leadership but role on the D. Beason was more of a tackle machine than anything. That was his trademark #. Tackles. He had some INT too. But for a front 7 player I think Beason still lacked some playmaking. Granted he played MLB but I still thought he was a little light in a lot of areas. Jon Beason finished his NFL career with a total of 4 sacks and 3 FF. I mean, Thomas Davis had more production in one season in those key categories.

really would need to comb through and look at Peppers' seasons because he might have a lot of worthy seasons. Easy to get caught up in the sacks but he has a lot of sneaky stuff like the FG blocks and all that too.

I hear you and that's generally what is said whenever people praise Marty's homerun streak.... but a lot of teams have consistently drafted high.....and done very poorly. First round has a pretty high bust rate. Marty's streak is pretty dang good.

1996 Kevin Greene is a pretty glaring omission. Finished 2nd in DPOY votes. 14.5 sacks. Helped take that team out of nowhere to the NFCCG. It's definitely top 5.

the world's shortest list. Things Scott Fitterer has done right.

I believe Frank's defense of it was he saw his kicker hit 60 yarders in practice. Not that Eddy was pulling it off pregame. And it was 100% obvious Eddy didn't think he could make it by his actions after the miss. The whole what did you expect body language. and I still don't think there has ever been any leaks on where the coaches stood....only that there was clear disagreement on what Frank opted to do.

We are also dead last in takeaways.

Did he? Last I heard was them acknowledging the coaches did not all agree on what Frank did in that moment. Sure didn't look like the kicker thought it was a good idea.

He has been playing through injury all year. It frankly is amazing he suited up last week if you watched his injury. He made HUGE strides from year one to year 2. Trevor is a lab QB physically. In-between the ears has always been where he lacked IMO. Even at Clemson he made a lot of boneheaded throws at his peak there. I put him in the Herbert tier. They just need to take one more step. Trevor's pretty young. I almost consider him a year 2ish player given the Urban thing.

I mean, I just don't see how anyone can argue Bryce doesn't have a weak arm by NFL standards. You could argue you don't need a strong arm and can still get it done. Which you can. But Bryce Young flat out can not make the throws other QBs can. Which is going to limit him/us. I think that is undeniable if you watch him. Some plays if they are there.....aren't. Because he can't get the ball there.

nah, he clearly doesn't have the type NFL arm you generally look for. There flat out are throws he can't make. I mean he technically can attempt them but the ball isn't going to get there in time. Or he is taking as sack because he can't just flick it out there and needs to put his body positioned behind a lot of throws.

Thomas Brown's situational play calling overall has been horrific in the majority of games post Frank. The only one you can't bash him for was yesterday's rain game. And the one time we got down to the goal (a situation he has been bad at redzone/short yardage/need to pick it up).....Tabor's FG play took it all away from him. His best game as an OC we scored 9 points.