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That also the #1 offense in the NFL. And before DeVante they were lighting folks up with Puca and Kupp. top of the NFL receiving books is full of 4.5 guys

Jake Delhomme threw it over people heads with freaking Mushin Muhammad. It happened because Jake was an aggressive downfield passer. NFL history is full of non-Tyreek Hill’s who got vertical.

this train of thought selectively ignores that Bryce is a literal physical anomaly in the NFL though. No amount of time will change that.

You post about water, people say it's wet. You complain. Rinse and repeat.

McDaniel is a weird cat though. His style isn't going to mesh with a lot of orgs. He screams OC. Not HC.

not happening, but Morgan should force the issue. Reality is, I think the Seattle buddy club is going to keep looking out for each other

No one is suggesting going all out to get a QB. You can get a cheap QB that raises the ceiling of our O to be a bridge......while you wait to actually go address the QB. Bryce is a bridge QB. That's the tier QB he is. A body a team would have as they wait to make a move for QB. Folks just want a better bridge QB that makes the O more threatening until we go make a move for QB

you don't know who will be realistic or available yet as 31 other teams will make changes. but you could look at the past 2 offseasons, and see how many dirt cheap QBs were added to rosters that are better than Bryce today (in backup roles). We could find a cheap bridge QB that has a higher ceiling and increase the ceiling of our offense over Bryce. Every year, these types are out there in the end because few teams need a bridge QB and they just slot in somewhere as backups

I don’t use or need PFF to back any position I make or take. Bryce’s actual production says he is often awful. Or below average. I just use those numbers. Like I have been doing. So yeah, your hypothetical isn’t a hypothetical. It’s not a thing. You need PFF’s creative subjectivity, not me.

Cam Newton had close to 4K yards and 30 TDs on a very efficient offense. these two things are nothing alike in terms of 2025 and 2013. Which is why the guy at the top was a Pro Bowler in 2013

Bryce Young stans keep PFF in busnsiess. Because every Bryce Young defense the past 2 seasons is them telling folks to disregard actual stats and production……and to look at PFF’s bologna

1086 yards, 7 TDs (16 game season) 1009 yards, 9 TDs (16 game season) 1014 yards, 7 TDs (17 game season) seems pretty close to me

also, draft position doesn't mean anything once you make it to the NFL. Jalen Coker is legit. Now, he might not of been healthy every game but as of right now.....there is really zero reason this offense is bottom of the league. We got the OL. We got the RBs and we got the WRs to be a pretty decent offense. We just need someone putting the ball where it needs to be.

I mean, a villain turn or not... KB did what he did in less games. Which was more yards and TDs on a per game basis.

it's a pretty tight 3 man contest

I think his point is, Bryce has a comical long leash/opportunity given what he has shown in the NFL. And when you look elsewhere, most other QBs that operated in a similar neighborhood had the audition ended by now. Bryce's opportunity and chances have been greater than the norm (especially, when you zero in on the present day NFL and stay out of prior eras)

lightning doesn't strike twice. Which is the hope. I think if we can force a competitive game at least going into the 4th.....that will be a win we can take with us in the big picture.

if Canales is going to take an INT and get risky.....it's going to be essentially throwing into the endzone/redzone. It really feels like lives to mitigate the Bryce Young holes where folks have gotten up on us. Bryce seems pretty clamped down outside of that area in his throws.

Bryce's velocity isn't an issue for most balls pending he gets to make the throw in ideal circumstances. But only a % of plays afford a QB the luxury of ideal circumstances. You want a QB that can still get it done when they are forced into less ideal scenarios, throws. Bryce lacks the arm for that often. and even in an ideal world, some of the tougher out routes an things like that are just tough for him to pull off.

wish there was a Falcon, Buc or Saints player that was saying something that sounded like this about our QB.... 'Shough is the real deal. Left Josh Allen's division, left from Josh Allen being in the division, and came to this [expletive] with Shough in it.'" Panthers Pro Bowl G - Robert Hunt

that's my Morgan issue. I think he is a continuation of Fitterer. So much of the "change" was really just punishing Fitterer for whatever and letting his team keep it keeping on IMO.

THIS. Morgan was the right hand man of the horrific Fitterer era. Yet, he gets a complete pass and people have invented this fictional world where he was silently against all the stuff his buddy thought. his first pure draft as GM - 2024 featured tremendous ideas such as trading up to draft XL and the class as a whole looks meh. if people don't give credit to Hurney for taking super safe picks in the top 10, how much credit does Dan get for being able to eyeball the safest WR to pick w/ his top 10 pick. Now he did hit on his 2nd and 3rd round picks but that's basically his claim to fame. the most important room in the building is on him....the QB room. His brilliant moves are backing up Bryce with a washed Dalton and only being able to find Jack Plummer for preseason ball 2 years in a row.

All you have to do is watch Bryce throw out routes or comebacks to the sideline….. his arm is 100% on the weaker side starting QB standards. Not really a debate IMO. and you hate watching it because the ball hangs

And that’s really carnival game throwing. As it sailed over what’s his name. Not in game, route throwing. Bryce has to be 40ish on a lot throws

These numbers differ. 2008-2013 https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/