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I don't think you can always go by 40 times when talking about speed in the NFL. 40 times largely measure how well you can run a 40. Sometimes it's more important to have quickness, route running, etc in the NFL. Lot of 4.4 guys aren't really all that fast on Sunday.

he might be a better pass rusher as a 3-4 OLB. He might not be. Never seen it. 3-4 might also highlight some of his weaknesses more. Don't know.

when we turned that down that offer, we also didn't know we would be moving to Evero's 3-4 scheme.

I just don't see why a NFL team would gamble on a massive contact......while never seeing him play a down at OLB in the new D. Everyone isn't going to be the same beast in a different scheme and position. Make the deal in season if you ask me.

if you are the Carolina Panthers, would you really want to give him a massive deal before you have seen him play a down in the new 3-4 scheme?

I mean, that’s what Bryce Young does well. That’s what he translates too in the NFL IMO. I mean, it doesn’t mean you literally never go deep. But yeah, he isn’t going to be a play action attack deep QB. He ideally would be attacking you short to intermediate. That’s the small ball game.

I mean, we drafted Bryce Young.....so it is going to make sense to build the team up with guys that cater to what we need. Which wasn't what we have had or had been drafed for. Tommy Tremble doesn't fit a small ball quick pass offense. You would have never drafted him if you were building an offense around Bryce Young. we still have a lot to do on that front, which is normal. We need some new TEs, WRs and frankly RBs to suit a small ball quick pass O. We lack the quickness/separation and hands on a lot of fronts.

Fitt paid him too much for him to go anywhere. He would be a 7 mill dead cap hit.

You leaving out Ian Thomas. He beats both those guys out. Arnold isn’t great but he is better than the majority of our TE roster.

Not these cuts, but there likely will be guys cut early this week that could improve rosters. Some teams are deep at spots. Some trying to figure out to roll with developing youth over aging vets. You can sometimes find some rental vet bandaids in the final cuts or legit raw talent.

Ian Thomas would be a 7 million dead cap hit Fitt-magic

I don’t think many people are doubting him for the most part. Think they doubt what is around him more than anything.

In fairness, a decent % of people in NFL front offices don’t belong either. NFL is slammed full of stupid just like every other corner of life. Dumb is everywhere.

Didn’t realize John Fox was still hanging around.

I don’t know why they gave Ian Thomas a contract extension last year. We should have moved on from him.

Andy Dalton trying to kill our small handful of healthy WRs

These aren’t the Lions starters

Is this the Lions starting D or backups?

Cousins looked pretty stupid in Washington behind RGIII. Until it wasn't. I mean, you do have a point there.

You essentially go from trying to hide your QB to trying to groom your #1 overall pick that the O will go through. OL has a different job. A harder job. They don't want to hide Bryce Young. a run heavy scheme (vs a lot of bad run defense) and trying to make the game not about your QB isn't really an ideal scenario to really judge how good an OL is in today's NFL.

I think we could get a late round pick potentially from a team that was interested in him during his draft year. I mean, he got hurt last preseason so his stock really hasn't changed that much. And I would suspect teams know that neither Rhule or Frank has really done anything with him. Frank rightfully focused on Young and before his injury it was pretty documented Rhule's time was on his bad vets. Corral likely wants out. I'd take a 7th rounder for him.

probably, and then factor in the schedule....it sort of sets up for a slow start for rookie QB, new team, etc. Before the bye 4 of the 6 are on the road. 4 of the 6 had winning record and all return their QBs. The 2 are our divisional games but the standard divisional factor probably doesn't really apply there given the newness of the teams involved.

not sure about that in the year 2023

we hope the Panthers come out how. And it's going to be how.

my issue with the over top stuff or extreme optimism isn't new. It's not unique to this squad. That's just not what I do. It is what it is. Yes, he called plays in SD and Indy. That's it. 2 spots. And the general critique of him as playcaller in both places (all the places) was the same one. And largely the praise too. It's 2023, we hired a young dude from an exciting coaching tree as our OC. Frank should let him do his job and grow. There are very few HCs that should be calling plays. Frank should be the HC. Brown should be the OC. Which means he should call the plays. That's a pretty moderate position you are trying to pitch as the yin to the overhyping yang.