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XL needs to be spend every second he can with Renfrow. Renfrow got where he is today because he does all the fine arts way better than most of his peers. Renfrow has been the least physical gifted WR on every roster he has been on dating back to HS where he might of not been the bottom of the totem pole. He just isn't talented enough for it really to expand out of the slot at this level. But route running, the subtle stuff, fundamentals....Renfrow has all that in spades. I still say he is the best route runner on the team and I don't think it is that close. But he does probably get too creative but that's a product of NFL film being something that matters and he has to evolve his routes over and over.

I'm really not invested in the ST game but the broadcast crew seemed to think that was a major issue in Carolina to figure out. Sure sounded they thought the coverage teams were really a place to earn a spot. I think Hunter just be the PR guy at least to open up the season. I don't like rookies opening up the year trying to figure the NFL speed/return game out. and sadly, that might be where Moore has an annoying edge. I do think he runs on those coverage teams.

young man's game. because it's a spot teams don't want to spend money at. Unless you are Carolina. That might as well be our motto.

Panthers technically blitzed more than most teams in the NFL last year. They just have mindboggling bad results from it. Think they had the 2nd worst % at actually generating pressure despite going to that well a lot.

well it is projecting 2025-2027 window it says. Hubbard and Rico would be old RBs at the end of that window. 29 and 28 I think. 30 has always been the graveyard in the NFL.

there is literally one team that has 2 running backs that both ran for 1k yards on different teams in the year 2024 lots actually have of have multiple RBs that have hit 1k yards. the initial statement I don't think was super specific. The fact check seems to be specific. Not sure it really matters. We got 2 solid RBs. So do other teams.

I think this is people viewing the claim as two different things. Texans got multiple guys that have hit 1k. Heck, the Falcons got multiple guys. The Panthers specifically have 2 that happened to do it in the year 2024

Top half of the league? We had the 29th ranked offense in the NFL last year and that was with the highest paid OL

but to an extent, it's the whole Double Trouble aspect that sounds better than it sometimes actually is. Having 2 featured RBs back in the day wasn't really a formula to be good. It's great insurance. But you can only play one of them. So your ceiling at RB is really just how good is your best RB to a degree. It's like having a great backup QB. It doesn't carry that much weight. Just means if things get bad, you don't drop off as much.

Nothing wrong w/ be excited about the potential. But Nabors and Tmac ain't going to fair the same in a head to head ranking like this. One still waiting to log a real NFL catch and the other has put in the books already. and we have been so bad, I just don't see the point of being offended we are last. We deserve to be defaulted worse when it is close based on our proven track record of late.

take lead dogs at WR. Pittman, Nabors, and Olave. Lead dogs elsewhere got more proof in the pudding. They all got 1k WRs. And WR is going to be maybe the key area people are making a case for Carolina to be higher.

I mean, when you actually start putting player vs player? I don't think it's controversial. Carolina still almost fully banking on hope that dudes pan out for a high % of the agreement here. So proven edges out potential when you start putting them head to head.

even without Luke....it it was substantially different type of investment going on. You also ended up w/ Star, KK, Shaq. And every pick doesn't hit. So you have the non-hits like Ealy, McClain added in which come w/ the territory. Since Morgan has been there it has been O heavy. And on top of that.....the entire management of it all has run counter to logic used in the biggest investment of all. We gave up the farm for BY under the logic we could invest elsewhere. That was THE selling point of going the BY route. Yet, after they drafted BY....every first round pick has been on a WR. Back to back. The D sucks because Evero is a JAG coach. With whack talent. But you could hire a great coach....and we likely are still bottom half. We have a talent issue. That's the front offices fault.

Night and day difference in the front office investements. Since Morgan has been in the FO (5 years)....4 out of 5 first round picks have been offensive players. The one defensive pick was a corner. Expand it out to the first 2 rounds? 7 out of the 9 picks have been offensive. That IMO is why our D sucks so bad. You build defenses up front. Carolina hasn't been investing there. Ron's first 5 years? 3 of the 5 first round picks were defensive players. Expand it all to include second rounders 7 of the 10 picks were defensive. All front 7 players.

Yep, you can even hire a recruitings/search firm…..and the best you can do is just hire in house and someone no other team interviewed. Morgan and Canales basically catching strays and I’m not trying to knock them here. But the reality is…Tepper has sort of set the stage here. Basically has to bribe folks with overpayment or hope to find gold with someone who can only get the shot because it’s Carolina

Frank is HC at Stanford this year. One year gig but I believe it’s a 4 mill deal. I don’t think Tepper gives a rip. He does the same thing on the soccer side of things as well. when your worth 21 billion….a couple million bucks just doesn’t matter. And if things get weird, Tepper gonna have way better lawyers. Heck, even if they don’t get weird.

Everyone said BY was playing like a 7 year vet at joint practices before he then had one the worst rookie seasons of all time. I think ever since year 2 of Matt Rhule…Carolina and everyone here has overstated and over played joint practices. I feel it gets way more talk and emphasis now than back in the day. Because the talk of joint practice has never seemed to track beyond that the last several years. I also think the reporting is different now about Carolina. I think Carolina controls it more than in past eras.

Coach contracts have offset language though…..so it’s not like the billionaire is really paying them like they are still coaching here. Rhule went to Nebraska the next year. Think making more than he was slated for here per year. Even Frank is back to coaching now

I recognize that last year was essentially BY’s rookie year in all reality. Spoken on that a lot. And the sophomore adjustment is coming for BY and what Dave managed to pull off with him last year. BY and Dave got to add more to this O….because even the post benching BY pass attack was low ceiling, non threatening and middle of the road. We went from horrific to middle of the road. I recognize that. Huge jump. And admittedly, I think given how mind blowing his rise from the dead was…..it causes people to now overstate what BY is. To me he is an old Brees with great wiggle/legs (minus a career of high level QB experience in his memory bank).

lol. My preference can’t be wrong. It’s literally what I want to see them doing. You can prefer they spend all their real game speed time repping on what we already know this QB can do…..my preference is when the stars align to get a good look stacked to their favor to work on a weakness in this O they work on that Canales has already said these dudes ain’t really playing as much as my preference on that too. BY could use way more work than 2 total quarters in a preseason. Still light work given what he is and isn’t at this stage

I still believe they don’t want a QB with some high ceiling traits on the roster behind BY to make things weird. Then have to deal with noise if whatever happens because all it takes is BY looking like he has for the overwhelming majority of his starts…..and done would be calling for the backup pretty quick after a stretch of a couple games to start the season.

you are just arguing my preference shouldn’t my preference of what they work on and it sounds like they will only get 3 more series this entire preseason….and might never get that look again. NFL teams take that shot. We need practice on it more than any team in the NFL. Should have taken advantage of that. That will remain my preference. And I you can prefer BY spend preseason doing what he does well. Until BY and the Panthers prove they can add new stuff to their offense it will continue to be one the lowest ceiling Os in the NFL IMO

The whole need to be 3-4ish is David Tepper.

The Tepper era has loved the scapegoat model to date. Always a guy lined up and ready if things go south to take the heat. Fanbase was way too happy at the end of the year and allowed Tepper to roll Evero into this year.

No one calling the go route efficient or something BY should be doing all game. We are a low ceiling offense for a variety of reasons. Not being able to back teams up and make them pay for cheating coverage is one of them. it’s not about TMac. This inability of our offense has been steadily discussed. It’s a convo about trying to get better where you need to improve….specifically when given the opportunity in ideal spots to work. Even the broadcast crew called the opportunity in real time. We just didn’t take it. We did what we always do