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Atlanta has the #2 D and the #10 O after 2 games. Now, I'm not saying that is actually an accurate representation of them this early BUT it's hard to argue a bad team (like we are an actually bad team) could would be able to appear as such after 2 games no matter the competition.

Bryce really doesn't throw go balls. He throws sideline fades or underthrows.

we are in total agreement. I'm just kicking up rocks trying to figure out how you potentially could just suck less next week lol.

I believe after this Sunday.....my wife will once again, realize the Panthers stink......and therefore she will not let me get away with watching Sunday football if she has better "plans" for us. my Saturday afternoons are also now in jeopardy as well but there is still some hope there.

I mean, it's an old school offense in reality. You got to find players to make plays. The O isn't just going to create it with just anyone. I didn't say we needed a game breaking WR. We literally just need players that can push and hope to create some YAC because Bryce isn't' going to stress a D deep enough (which has fugged up the O every season he has played including Franks) AT and Renfrow included don't offer YAC at the slot. That's not what either are. Slot is the easiest place to get some. Obviously, I don't want my dude Renfrow benched. He has a purpose. But the Panthers need to start searching for solutions. We got zero real quickness on the field. And hell, I don't even know if Horn really offers it because the Panther preseasons tell you virtually nothing about dudes

Panthers desperately need someone they can rotate in that got real speed to hopefully turn some underneath stuff into bigger plays. Renfrow is great but he is just a chain mover. I do wish they would try to turn the slot into a 2 man show. Get Horn up for some light passing down work. But I get that's a lot of small bodies to have active game day that only do slot work.

in fairness, Saunders didn't block his guy on the handoff and Bryce didn't sell the quick screen at all. The one DE you are supposed to fool immediately sprints to attack XL.

I wish I could find that clip of Dave talking about himself. Dave isn't going to scheme up wins. It's going to be about the players in his O. Which just makes that QB spot so dang important. but yeah, you got to get DBs thinking we can attack beyond 10-15ish yards on a play...if not, secondaries just cheat responsibilities. If I had to guess/predict the most likely next Bryce INT? It's a safety making a play on a ball in front of him.

I think starting this week you gotta work in Tremayne out there. You don't got to bench XL but Tremayne just seems to be clearly a better WR at this stage (despite XL having the physical tools). I think waiting on Coker is malpractice.

but in terms of OP? What is Bryce supposed to say. The past couple seasons have made it well known there really is nothing to gain by listening to folks on a bad team have to answer questions about why they stink. They aren't going to be real or tell truths. It's just the spin zone.

yeah, XL didn't do anything actually week 2 like the toe thing week 1. Dave can't scheme him up a play. Those go horrible (like the handoff or the screen that wasn't really even a screen). Nothing was there. as for the rest, XL just isn't a good enough WR for his route running to shake himself open on some predictable routes. Most targets to him were off target or thrown to be contested balls. I will say this, XL does not play to his size though when a ball is up in the air. He doesn't seem to actually have any sort of advantage for a contested 50/50 ball. That's really a skill set more than size thing. Some dudes just go up great.

People just couldn't wait to move on from Ron/Hurney....

he was arrested and charged for Bright. That one was worse than Lucas

Charlotte FC might set the MLS record for consecutive wins this weekend and is going to back to back postseasons. Jump on board! The only good team in Charlotte!

I mean that's the model for 3 of the 4 wins last year. strong running day. Bryce plays off the run and isn't asked to do that much but make some basic throws...and needing to catch a weaker opponent. I think that last part is a big of an unknown. Is Atl still bottom of the pack.

Tepper Panthers are 1-5 in home openers. Lone win thus far is the Sam Darnold/Jets revenge game

honest question, if you remove the 1 game anomaly from his career (that week 18 game)....when is the last time he (Bryce) even finished a game strong?

I realize we were down 24 points when the Carolina Panthers touched the ball for the first and only time in the 3rd quarter...and they went on a 14 play checkdown drive taking the exact plays the Cards wanted them too and gave them overall. and now you got folks cherry picking random plays asking how could it be garbage time if the Cards weren't in prevent on a 3rd down short yardage play or on the goal. all you got do to is just watch the game live on repeat and not listen to the announcers.

down 24 and we get our first possession in the 3rd and what happens? run TE checkdown TE checkdown run run run RB checkdown TE checkdown run TE checkdown incomplete TE checkdown run now on the 4 yard line- Renfrow TD and POOF! 3rd quarter is over. That's not a team even trying to get back into the game in reality. That's just the Panthers taking freebies to make it look respectable in the end and guess what? Bryce gets to pad on 6/7 to his stat line in exchange for making the 3rd quarter disappear. Not sure the hyper focus on the depth of the corners. Cardinals were going to simply drop and allow the easy stuff underneath. Which they did. Did they play a random short yardage play a little different? Sure. That doesn't' mean they weren't just letting the Panthers overall eat clock to bring the game to an end. The Cards strategy was fine on D. You just don't generally see teams implement it as early as they did but they were up pretty big. It's the other units for the Cards that fugged the plan up. again, it's 3 drives, the ONE in the 3rd quarter and only drive of the entire quarter and the 2 to open the 4th. Cardinals gave Bryce stuff in exchange for clock (and the result was slow long drives eating the clock). The rest of the game? They didn't. The rest of the game outside of those 3 drives the Cards weren't in garbage allowance mode and Bryce stunk

Yeah but not one poster has framed it that way. Starting in the 3rd quarter the Cards did invite the Panthers to take cheap checkdowns to eat clock and the Panthers did it. And the strategy worked perfect in the 3rd. 14 play drive of TE/RB dumps and the entire 3rd quarter was gone. Cards then carried the same strategy into the 4th. It just didn’t work as well for them because what of what the rest of the Card team did 3 drives is what we are talking about. Not 3 + quarters. Those 3 drives were the bulk of Bryce’s production. Literally every play wasn’t a freebie. They weren’t trying to let Renfrow get into the endzone once they got all the way down. But Renfrow was down there because the Cards just wanted us to take the dump plays the gave us to run clock. When the Cards didn’t want us to eat clock we couldn’t do diddly vs a meh D

Cards weren't really blitzing that much the entire game. The ones they sent just wrecked Bryce. My opinion is you are over fixated on what happened as we got close to the goal. The one possession we had in the 3rd quarter? That was a freebie to get down there. It was literally just checkdowns to the TE when we weren't running the ball down... taking up the entire quarter. Next quarter Cards were inviting the exact same behavior. Which is why you got those back to back clock eating small ball 14 play drives. Featuring RB and TE easy catches.

You have to make the best of it and find moments of happiness. So, I picked up the Falcons D in my money league for this week.

it's sports. Where anything can happen. A punt returner can basically decide the outcome of a game just by muffing 2 punts. That said, these teams lineup 5 times and no matter the site, Atlanta is winning the majority. They are better. They are favored by 5 at our home. Which is more than a TD on a neutral field.

I think Canales paired w/ Bryce has been figured out. I think Canales is pretty simplistic. Which he told us when we hired him. You need a QB like Baker he is flat out going to make big throws downfield. Or a Jake. He isn't some modern day scheme dude. Run run set up the downfield stuff. It's not going to be the scheme but players that win. I mean, it's not literally every possession but that was every passing O Canales has ever been around and it's the core of what his O is structured to be. Bryce doesn't fit that. Bryce needs a modern day playcaller and scheme w/ the weapons to go with it. Dave issue is the same as the Frank issue ultimately. We got a front office that is building something that actually syncs up. Failure by design. If you wanted Bryce, you don't hire Frank. Or Dave. And you don't draft XL. You draft Ladd. Carolina makes simple hard. Which you see that a lot in life.

and most really good QBs are nickel and diming folks these days because the league really fixates now on sitting in 2 high shell these days to take away those deeper balls (big shift to those 2 high S looks in recent years). But with Bryce teams aren't having to devote energy to taking that away and it impacts coverage elsewhere. You see that with S play for example vs Bryce. Makes his intermediate passing more difficult.