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Our org can be terrible and a bad landing spot... And Young can also be really, really bad. I've not seen a 1st round QB show so little since... Man I don't even know. Even last year, it was clear he was at least a part of the problem on offense. He started all year and was worse than even backups. Who gets so many chances? Even Pickles (not a 1st rounder) only played so much because of an injury to Moore. Whatever. If blaming the org makes Miami or someone else willing to trade for him, hell yeah, it's all the orgs fault

Bryce has had to be protected at every step of his pro career. He's just not it. It's sad, because he seems likeable. But he just isn't it. Our org blows but so does he.

I mean, Reich would be our coach and we'd be a darkhorse playoff cntender if Stroud was our QB. instead, we'll all be betting on if we can even finish the season with 1 win. A good QB can carry a team. A medicore QB can do enough to win. Young is so bad that he is making the team around him worse. Nobody believes in him. Nobody should. He isn't even gonna make it as a backup.

Calling Bryce a quarterback is a little bit ridiculous.

I don't care who the couch is running the offense, when your QB caps out at 5 yard passes there's no fuging point. Bench Young

I've never been so uninterested in Panthers football... Ugh. Bryce Young makes everyone around him worse.

This seems like an oddly good decision on NFLNs part. He wasn't a great head coach ultimately but he knows defense.

Keep pounding, Mr. Scot! Wishing you the best!

So you're saying we got HC figured out?!

Wouldn't be the first time we actually found a gem from a minor league. Nothing wrong with additions like this, hope they work out. We need bodies for camp either way.

Decent video - Bryce did have some great throws with anticipation.... But most of the time, he was just atrocious footwork wise, and I really do think he'd have been better sitting because he doesn't have physically gifts to lean on. Hopefully we've addressed the rest of the offense and he takes a big step but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Yeah I understand now - tbh I didn't follow Horn at all before the draft so I didn't know if maybe he did have injury history

Yeah, I just have a hard time making the comparison cause Horn may seem fragile now but wasn't in college. Wilson, tho... I share your concerns.

Did Horn have a significant injury history in college? I didn't think he did but may be wrong

Although my Panthers enthusiasm is near an all time low, I actually think the draft (and FA) shows a pretty clear team direction related to power running and quick passing. I would have liked a C too, and I don't love XL, but it's very clear that they really believe in him and our trades for once look good overall... Dunno, if not for last year and who we still have at QB I think I'd be pretty pumped about this off-season.

Solid depth, knows the system. Seems a good acquisition. As to college tape... Yeah I just don't care anymore. Hopefully BY turns it around but I'm not holding my breath.

What was the trade last year? Or do you mean two years ago?

I'm of the mind you should always be looking to improve and get depth on the OL. I don't think we need to tear it down and start over, but we should always be looking to improve because you never know where injuries will hit or how players returning from injury will do.

I mean this is something I'd write just to troll this forum The genius behind the Drew Brees comparison...? Some heatmaps of middle of the field accuracy? Makes me want to make an "analytics" troll account and see if I can get a job with the team because of my excellent analyses...

Is that article just deep sarcasm? Haha.

I mean... What proof of this is there exactly? Because a coach wanted a dude? That doesn't mean that the scouts / Fitterer didn't.

Eh I think it's still something friends would do for each other. Until Bryce looks better it's hard to really have much hope for him. He was put in a bad situation but he arguably made the offense worse, not better, at least compared to the backup. I don't hate the guy and so hope he succeeds. I just don't really put stock in what one of his best friends says.

TMJ may not make the final roster but he isn't a pre camp cut imo. I think we should let Theilen go to a competitor if he wants to...

The defense last year had to account for the worst starting position in the league or close to it, and an offense that had the most or second most points scored for an opponent. In addition to total yards, they also had a decent 3rd down conversion % and a low yards per play amount. They were also top 5 in points allowed in the first quarter. This is probably a playoff team (admittedly in a weak NFC South) with 1) an average offense in terms of points scored, and 2) an average offense in terms of, uh, not scoring points for the opponent. On the other hand, our tackling sucked and our takeaways sucked. Our run D was not good. We couldn't get stops late in games when we really needed them. But with all the injuries etc... I think Evero did a good job overall. I don't think he is the best D coordinator in the NFL or something, but I think he made good use of what he had, talent-wise.

We thought we did pretty well last year, so let's see...