mav1234

I actually think you are right, fwiw, having looked at some others. I don't think there was animosity in the choice but it is weird not to use a picture that includes the biggest reason we made it that far. Then again, at some point the Panthers started to see cams brand as competition I think.

Well, you can argue why that picture was chosen (shirts, a number of players, celebrating etc)... I would have included a picture with Cam but that is fundamentally different from saying they are cropping him out of pictures.

Cam is being blocked by a podium and a speaker. You can see that in the banner too, it's just cropped a bit. Take a look above - that's the original photo and you can see it at https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-receive-nfc-championship-rings-17235426 .... He's not in the original.

This is from the Panthers site posted after the team got it's rings.

He's doing a pretty damn good job of haunting us as it is... At least all of us fans, haha. More like a curse on team management... Maybe that'll be the next excuse when the next retread fails.

The thing is, players are always going to push themselves to play thru pain and do whatever they can to be on the field. Responsible coaches need to be able to sit players for their own good. Rivera's failure to do so fuged Cam... I wouldn't say this is why Darnold was bad (heh, he was bad plenty before this), but it sure didn't help a young QB struggling to prove he belongs

This irritates the poo out of me. This staff comes off as so fuging incompetent. As if Darnold looks good when healthy...

Good news everyone, these coaches are also more than willing to throw players out onto the field while injured.

I don't begrudge fans wanting him back but he's not coming back and expecting us to turn the QB position around mid season with ANY pickup is... Well it just isn't gonna happen

Barkley played in limited time for the Bills last year. Cam was never coming back to us, tho. I'm not sure why fans thought that'd happen.

Cam wouldn't be anywhere near the best player on our roster as he is now. But he would be the best QB... Still, I don't think he'd want to be here anyway, and he surely doesn't want to come back for a half season rental, as that is all it'd be...

I'm not sure. It isn't a great look (even if it's understandable) for Cam to refuse any team right now, so he wouldnt leak it...

2018. Honestly Cam wasn't going to come back and frankly I wouldn't want to put him thru this... Given that, I'm not surprised by this move because any QB we signed at this time of year was going to be awful.

Abdullah made him expendable. He and Chuba are fine backups to CMC. It isn't hard to find a JAG RB if CMC goes down again.

I would hope that this staff has enough integrity that if he wasn't interested they wouldn't go talking about it publicly. We'd never know.

Yup, although at least one has been a bad call (RB in the area on what I think was a screen). Crazy how little awareness he has sometimes tho.

He does have talent, but simply not enough or doesn't show it consistently enough ... And maybe that'll change but he's not gonna show it on this roster... Maybe, if he can sit behind an established starter as a backup some day we could see him resurrect his career...

Well tbf I wouldn't say Miami's passing offense is playing well, lol. Sam just is the worst starting QB in the league, unfortunately, and whether we gave him the situation to be better doesn't matter. We have 2 other QBs on the roster and it's time to give them a shot because Sam, for as great as he may be off the field, is destroying morale on it.

Im fine with any one of those moves tbh. It's the combination of them... So much relying on so many reclamation projects...

Although I think he deserves the burden of blame for his performance, I think his first four games indicate that there's much more going on than Darnold alone... I think the offense got figured out, I think Brady hasn't been able to adapt OR Darnold hasn't been able to get new players under his belt or something to allow the offense to grow. Yes his first four games were somewhat fools Gold, but he was still so much more decisive and was hitting the deeper passes... The wheels started coming off vs Dallas but it wasn't until subsequent games where he looked really exposed... And remember that is when we started hearing Ds knew what plays we were running before the snap.

The issue with this staff is their incredible hubris to think they can resurrect people's careers. Just because they got more than expected out of a few players last year the staff bought into their own bullshit and decided to try to build an entire OL and raise a QB from the dead. It's insane.

Rhule failed to put Darnold in a position to rehab his career. It's his fault we are as fuged as we are. Doesn't make Darnold good, but it is what it is...

There's some critical missed on the part of Rhule that could have helped Darnold perhaps fix his career. But it doesn't matter ultimately what Rhule didn't do, because we have Darnold as he is. And how he is, unfortunately, is terrible... It's time to move on

I don't think that Darnold was coddled. I think that the lack of competition, the signing of the extension... These were signs of the hubris of this coaching staff. So sure of their ability to rehabilitate any player that they thought they could turn around a guy's career while failing to give him the actual support he needed on the football field or in the QB room. That's the thing. Bringing in a seasoned vet that has had decent success as a backup isn't about competition, IMO. It is about another set of eyes. Getting a guy behind Darnold that has seen things, that can offer insight, etc. What the heck can PJ (or Grier, had we kept him) offer Darnold? Nothing. If they were REALLY going to treat Darnold like a rookie, they should have built around him like one: A veteran backup to help him. A good OL. Etc. We did pick up a nice TE, which is every young QB's best friend... but we then traded that TE for a guy that has barely played (well, and a 3rd round pick ... ). Anyway... Darnold needs to SIT. He's done. We've continued fuging him the way the Jets started. Just get it over with and IR him.

I don't think it is a problem that Brady is in the booth. Darnold just doesn't have it. By all accounts he is a great player off the field, but he just doesn't have what it takes to succeed on it.