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That's a build meant to fail. Just look at any game this year where they thought they turned the corner the game before. My guess is we will look back when Dave gets fired mid-season next year and wish we did fire him and abandon this build now.

Yeah it's all you have to really focus on which is the point. Good QBs take advantage of that and for Bryce it's 266 yards. If you don't see the larger pattern then that's on you. The offensive is one dimensional with Bryce and it's the run game. The Saints figured it out and all you have to do is stop the run to shut a Young led offense down. Thr only thing that I wonder about is why the rest of the leuge didn't already know this all year long. In a passing leuge blaming the run for a poor non rookie QB is pathetic loser mentality...which is a big chunk of why the team is 0-3 with Bryce.

Because any decent HC wouldn't tie themselves to both Bryce and Tepper. Also Steichen's poor interview was from a Panther's leak so he probably just told them the truth and that was labeled 'poor' also known as correct in better organizations. Bryce didn't have a bad game? Have you seen the offense required to have him under center? Lol. 14 points lol

His 3rd year is complete. Unless they trade him or cut him and he has a bit of time to sit behind a better QB and work on those things it's never going to happen. It's not an offseason timeframe thing. It's who he is and who he has always been. Just get a better QB, with his level of play it's not a very difficult task.

He has been in the room for 3 years talking about the parts they ended up with, especially with HCs with their hands off the D. He may not have been give the most expensive tallent, draft or free agency, but that D is full of his guys. It was also the worst defense in his second year so that's on him too and he isn't getting a curve for that part for getting back to mediocre. He basically slightly improved from the D that Rhule/Wilks left 3 years ago to put it into perspective.

It's going to hurt when they run it back with Dalton as the only other option next year.

Umm plenty of people were calling him out: height, weight, durability, arm, legs and footwork. Lots didn't know on Stroud but it was an easy call IMO in comparison. Mostly I hated the trade, the hires and the way the crew was proceeding. Failure upon conception really. After the Rhule years it was pretty infuriating all around personally. It always come back to the media hype and if this isn't proof that that is mostly noise I don't know what else could convince anyone.

His legs looked limited in school to me. Good enough at that level but it never looked NFL level. All the guys you mentioned made Bryce look slow and limited. What propped him up was other non-NFL level guys on the field. Absolutely on the 2nd part. That's becaude when he bails he doesn't have to ability to make it work more often. Lots of times this year and past teams let him scramble because they obviously didn't see it as a serious threat. Hell Payton was allowed to run because he was so slow and took off so infrequently. Bryce isn't that bad but he is closer to that than to Murray.

That's why I said I agree the other stuff matter more. If that doesn't exist it's not even worth looking at height. It does limit play tho. Deal killer? Not with good physical traits and skills. I never got Bryce's playmaker ability from school film. It always looked school level at best to me. I don't watch more school ball so I only care about NFL level and he just didn't look more than a gut eho peaked in school. That sounds like a sound take moving forward.

I agree but the 1 and a half guys that have fit is a small hit percentage. I agree the other stuff matters more. If Murray wasn't a dud between the ears it would be 2 and not 1 in that category. It's deffinatly not as high as ability, tools and skills. Yeah really weak arm is a huge red flag. Paired with poor footwork should be a hell no.

I am not at all up for under 6' myself. That list is small and unimpressive, I really can't think of anyone but Wilson in that category recently I would call good that I can think of. Murray could have made it work but he is incredibly dense IMO. That's just bad odds. Over 6'? Shouldn't be an issue by itself. 100% on the second part. That's what matters first and would dictate an exception.

6'1" isn't a deal breaker, especially for a latter pick. At this point a backup level QB that can see the field would be a huge improvement, 6'1" can see a lit more than 5'9"+. Add in any physical traits above poor level and it's all.imprivement in the right direction IMO.

19th in rushing yards allowed and 28th in rushing TDs allowed. 1 more TD allowed on the ground than passing TDs allowed. Kind of obvious why those stats exist. The only good part of the heavy zone is the turnovers IMO. 14th in passing yards allowed and 8th in passing TDs allowed but 20th in allowed yards per attempt. All that gives a clearer picture of thr total picture.

Unless he pulls a Crosby then I doubt it too. Just sounds like a floundering HC doing his thing but there could always be more going on behind the curtains. Bowls absolutely was a bad hire but he did decently for a guy I thought was going to look more like Moris then what he has done. Pretty decent for a highly flawed HC. I'm still a little surprised he didn't implode it all in his first or second year. Been painful to watch him win. Pretty clear litmus test for what's going on in Pantherland.