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Baker is in the playoff because the NFCS stink not because he is good, just good enough. Good for him but no he isn't a good QB. Lance appeared in 19 games in three years (edit: lol 8 games in 2 seasons, I used his school games le sigh Link I used), they knew what they had. He didn't play more because of injury and poor play. Lance is a bust for them but he has the next few seasons to try and prove he isn't a complete bust. In that situation with Purdy looking better there wasn't any reasons to keep him around and a lot of reasons to not do so. Willis has looked awful, no where close to NFL level playable but he is on a rookie deal but also has to face a new HC (still has not thrown a TD in 11 games of play). Cam is awesome but his shoulder is done so unless someone is using him as a powerback he doesn't have an NFL future barring some kind of medical miracle. Purdy is a great fit in that system but yeah Cam was right and a lot of people still do not like that.

Keep Brown and see a new deal. See what a new deal with Moton looks like if not solid then trade away, no reason to get back into Burns territory with that needing to be addressed. Trade for what they can: Jackson and Horn need to be gone neither can be relied upon at this point. Theilen is wasted here and should play out his career somewhere with hope. See if Woods has trade value. See if Sanders has trade value. Cut Tuttle, Hurst and Thomas. Just get it over with, June 1st whoever makes the most sense. Add in Corbett. Not sure about Bozeman. Feel like if he isn't a fit here he could still net a pick maybe. Do not sign Burns longterm. Tag and trade or let walk if it looks ugly.

He was saying that they have to play Young, I said competition is best. Saying you must play Young when he can't win the job is saying play Young over trying to win. It's a 2 win team so ofcouse all of it is uphill from here. If you would have asked anyone if Reich would be fired midseason year 1 no one would have said yes. If you are saying play Young in all 24 regardless then you are asking, baring a miracle I guess, them to lose. That is tanking and a terrible way for a new crew to start. He will play and get a shot but if it's still 'all in on Bryce' and not 'give Bryce a chance' there is a solid chance it ends the same way. The Bucs went to the playoffs with Baker. It really doesn't take much more to win more, at least in the NFCS. People are already afraid of missing that #1 pick in 25 and if that was the top priority they should just keep Tabor as the HC for another year and hire a GM to hire the new HC in 25. I am on a board for Panthers fans, disappointment all we get now. It's easier to just say the people hiring everyone are really bad at it so why expect anything to change now?

I wish he would have waited to try and join the team until this year. I don't want to see any carry over. Bye Dan and good luck.

Don't try to win is a bad message for the new crew. I get Young getting a shot but if that is the game plan they may not make it to year 2 either.

I think you could have done that with Fritters and Reich still here but not a new crew. That will not end up with good hires in that scenario. I was thinking of another Dalton or prove it guy type backup, nothing expensive like Jimmy G has been(then again Jimmy G in 23 is about right play wise). I don't think you can do that to a new staff and think you end up with anyone good that will be tied to having to play Young another 16 or 17 games.

I think it's a schtick but it might be mental illness so I am just leaving that alone. I get wanting Young to succeed but going to his draft or school history to prop him up with his NFL film is just laughable. It feels like punching down so I'm out.

Reich literally tried to bench Young to play Dalton. I said he was already here. Please keep up the clown act. You are the fan Young deserves

They already have Dalton and the last coach already tried lol, the one the helped draft him lol Better get ready for the inevitable. Also all of that draft BS is already dead and gone. It's like watching his school film at this point. There is actual NFL game film and it's terrible lol.

We already were when Young was drafted. Nothing I said was wrong or delusional. Anyone that would just roll into next year with only Young after this year deserves to be one and done in their jobs. If Young can't beat out a backup he shouldn't be starting. It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

After his play this year they have to bring in competition. It doesn't have to be a pick or a trade or an expensive FA, all sound like terrible choices to me at this point. Just someone that can play at NFL backup level. If Young can't beat that out then he shouldn't be starting. What was spent on him is gone along with 2 key people that brought him in so that doesn't matter. Either they can get better play out of him in 24 or he is toast. They already forced him to play most of a season with little improvement so playing time isn't the issue. Fix the team for sure either way. The lines, WRs and TEs need to happen regardless. As for Bryce if he can't do better in training camp he shouldn't be starting going forward. Sign a backup QB and let them compete.

That one hurts either way. Four 1000+ yard seasons out of six in this dumpster fire but he isn't a #1 WR... A WR doesn't have to be insta HOF material to be good. Trading up for a QB and getting rid of the only good WR was so incredibly dumb. I hated that trade when it happed and still find it mindboggling. That's not even brining up watching Burns walk lol

Still lol. Some are still talking that BS

Looks like he wants to go further away from talent evaluators and towrds cap guys? LoL. If he had hired a guy thay could evaluate talent he wouldn't be making another hire. Tepper alreay has Suleiman why would he need another cap guy?

Those are bust numbers. Maybe he can drag his play into backup territory but he is busting right now and there is no sugarcoating it.

This is what happens when you have fools in charge. Take the original trade or sign him, nope they waited and then bickered about the price because he really isn't worth the value of the Rams offer. How the fug they let it come into this year without a deal is on the team, players always ask for what they can get and regardless if it was us or someone else this deal should have been done last offseason. Yes he wanted too much but they could have done a trade and just owned up to not being as good as the one they turned down from the Rams. I hope the new GM can find a trade partner he will go with or just let him go. Yes it stinks but that deal was screwed up already and I just want to be done with any players with any promises from the last idiot in charge of the roster. He isn't nearly as good as the people in Carolina have been telling him for years. When you lie like that the bill comes due. Well here it is. Could have been a valuable part of it all but no he has to be called great. “He’s a phenomenal leader and has been totally into it,” Panthers coach Frank Reich said. “In the meeting room, on the practice field he’s totally locked in. And he’s making good progress physically. We are not only expecting him to be a great player on the field but also be a great leader.”“What I am learning about him, like most great players, is he’s a very smart football player,” Reich said. “So that allows us to do different things with him. Sure, we mainly want (him) to rush the passer. But it does allow us to do other things. ... We will see how that all plays out.” Just call him a valuable part of the team and stop blowing smoke he hasn't earned. It's been the same BS since he was drafted. 1 year of double digit sacks is not greatness. It's good job now keep trying for better. Peppers had 12 in 12 games his rookie year, that is what special looks like.

It screams excuse. A friend leaked this and it is mighty convenient. The entire thing is a hilarious attempt at misdirection. Tepper the player's hero lol

Lol. Right after a pick on offense (for a TD?). Just lol

Losong decent people is the price of being so poorly run. With the stuff they had going on in that house a 100% cleaning would be best. He looks like a good DC and I am not sure he had any part of that activity but DCs are not the most difficult positions to fill in the modern NFL.

Safe? Not at all. Here next year? Sure. Those are 2 different things now.

Clean house with zero carry over in staff. Bring on the prove it deals because it's volume time to turn this roster around. Young should be in competition moving forward. They spent and wasted an entire year trying to prop that up with no meaningful movement out of all of that playing time but if he can't beat a Dalton out next year then it was never going to work anyways. Burns tag and trade or let walk for the optics to potential free agents. If he wants to fight then just blame Fritters and move on without the black eye of an ugly tag fight to start a new GMs time here. Purge any players that are tradable that are not part of the future. Stop with the square pegs in round hole approach and don't rely on injury prone players to be available. Guys like Sanders can be traded while we eat cap as a win-win scenario. Focus on the lines first because they are a mess and would help everything else. figure out the scheme and then personnel.

Those 2 are and were better coaches. I agree with about what Ron still has I just don't think he wants to change. He always came off my way or not at all. I could see him going 100% family and never looking back. Time will tell.

His obsolescence on the field might kill his value off the field. I would have agreed before his time in DC but now retirement looks like his best fit. I just don't know what a cheerleader position looks like for him when the football side is that bad because if a team is playing that kind of team it really shouldn't be hard to understand and know that outdated playbook. IDK, Ron would have to change his MO and that is not really his bag.

Got rid of a huge issue hanging over the process. Now it's time to see how Tepper can fug this up again. Please stop hiring people you like because they are all trash.

Wouldn't even get a comp pick with the free agent needs this team has under new management. Whatever. If the new GM can pull off a tag and trade then he is already earning his pay.