Ricky Spanish

This is the biggest load of logical fallacies I've seen in a while. I don't get to choose who delivers my mail, checks me out at the grocery store, or works at a hotel those places of employment do. I DO get to choose what team I root for, and I DO care about the players that represent that team. Like it or not, those individuals are looked up to in the community and have an impact on the surrounding area. Tell some of the under privileged kids in the charlotte area that Cam Newton or Thomas Davis didn't have an impact on their lives. Tell me how kids at Levine's Children's hospital weren't impacted by Greg Olsen and his actions. And BTW, if I found out that the cashier at the local Publix is a registered sex offender, I would avoid that fuging Publix and go to Harris Teeter.

See the Polls. For those of you who do want Watson; Would a trade similar to what the Broncos sent to Seattle for Wilson (Two 1sts, Two 2nds, a 5th and 3 players) be worth it on our end? Please vote and discuss.

Matt Rhule and his process

God I hope we don't trade for him. Our team is complete poo even outside the QB position, and we'd probably have to trade away the few good players we actually have in order to get Watson, as well as future draft picks. Wouldn't be surprised to see the price tag being something like 3 1sts, 3 seconds (future), and any combination of CMC, Anderson, Chinn, Moore, Shaq, or Brown. So we give up all of that with limited draft capital, limited cap space, and limited talent to surround the new franchise QB fresh off of 20+ Sexual assault allegations? fug that. I'm out.

Fingers crossed we get someone to jump up and recoup a ton of picks

WOW...

Damn. This past year was his tenth year too. Welp, either way, we have a chance to get a better round pick as long as we don't do anything stupid... I know that's asking a lot for this team right now. Still worth the trade IMO.

Is there a rule they implemented that caps the round you can get based on if you traded for a guy mid season? I know they base comps off of playing time, the contract signed, and anyone signed to the team at a comparable rate in FA. Wasn't sure there was anything else that determines it.

For real, as long as we don't go do something stupid, we can potentially land a 4th round comp pick for next years draft (based on the contract Gilmore Lands), essentially trading our 6th round pick for a 4th rounder in the same draft. Edit** I stand corrected, it's a 5th at best. Still not bad.

It was for a 6th round pick two years into the future. I don't agree with MANY of the moves that have been made over the past few years, but I make that trade every day of the week for an All-Pro CB coming off injury. The price tag for the player was laughably low.

We agree on Strong but disagree on Trask. I look at Trask as a JAG.

I want Rhule gone more than most on this board. This is a nothing burger. There is nothing to actively scout when it comes to running the 40.

Cam dragged a WR core of Philly Brown, Rookie Devin Funchess, Ted Ginn and Jericho Cotchery (who caught it) to the super bowl with Mike Remmers as his starting RT. His MVP year was 2015. By the start of next season, that will be 7 years(!) since he was a top QB in the league. Rivera ran him into the ground and he is a shell of the QB he once was. He is past his peak. It sucks, but it's true. He has not come close to playing at that same level consistently ever since. There are games of good play sprinkled in here and there, but the vast majority of his play these days has been sub-par. Yes he came in late last season and tried to learn the offense on the fly. He was still missing receivers and making bad throws even when he did have time, which I will admit wasn't often. People have a death grip on the good old days trying to choke them back into existence. It's not going to happen. Even if Cam does play better than he has for the past 5 years, we still have Matt Rhule as our HC. Any good that the resurrection of prime Cam would provide would be immediately neutered by Rhule's incompetence. If Cam has a chance to be better (That's a big IF for me), then I don't want him to do it here with us. He doesn't deserve that. Let him go somewhere with competent coaching and a chance to get a ring. He still has value as a former MVP with experience that could help a younger QB succeed and potentially provide relief in the event of injury. Have him go to Buffalo, Seattle, Green Bay, KC, Philly, SF, or LA and back up the starter.

No. Not at all. I will always appreciate Cam for everything he did for the team and City but he's done. He hasn't played even average since the first half of 2018 and people wanting to see him continue will be the same ones that rake him over the coals when he continues to play horribly after the first month. And Willis, I do not like as a prospect. He very well could have the mental capacity to make immense improvements over the next season or so, but his game is so raw and unpolished my expectations are incredibly low. Do not like this scenario at all.

Willis is 6'0 and 1/2 inches tall and 219lbs with a good arm Cam was 6'5 and 245 lbs with elite arm strength. Cam stepped up in big games, Willis did not. Cam threw guys open and didn't leave meat on the bones with his passes downfield. Willis constantly misses reads with open receivers downfield and then scrambles like Johnny Manzel. Cam wasn't a scrambler, he ran designed run plays. Willis is an elite scrambler, and he often does it unnecessarily. I do not think they are comparable players personally.

I like the dude, don't like the dude's Game. Talked about it in the other thread, he has some amazing highlights but he leaves a lot of meat on the bone throughout each game. Great at backyard football, not as great at structured football and played significantly worse against better competition. His game reminds me of Johnny Manziel but not a shithead and apparently a very hard worker. Wherever he goes, he should sit for at least a year.

If we go into the season with Eiflein as our starting Center, we are fuged. Whoever starts instead of Miller is addition by subtraction. The fact he started as much as he did baffles me... Jesus I'm getting upset again thinking about how stupid the OL was managed all season. It made no damn sense whatsoever and reminds me of how little hope I have going into next season.

Yep. From all accounts dude seems like a Grade A person that everyone he knows loves. I'm just not a fan of his game.

Agreed. Dude is an elite scrambler and he has a cannon arm. Those two traits provide awesome highlight reel plays often, but damn near everything else in his game gives me pause.

Do not Like Willis personally. Can't read field well, misses opportunities to throw at guys open downfield in favor of scrambling/adlibbing, Poor ball placement, and shrank against better competition in college. His game reminds me of Johnny Manziel - Backyard football that doesn't play well in rhythm as a QB in a pro offense. From what I hear his personality is the exact opposite of Manziel though, so lord knows he might be able to work through his deficiencies.

Hey, I asked one of those questions. Dude ole'd me. It's like reading Russian Bot propaganda.

"Building the team the right way" Then why does Rhule still have roster control?

The fug did it take him till year 3 to do that?

I have nothing against the guy, but Jesus, Howell has a face that screams "I can't read".

I feel like you have a better shot at trading back and taking Strong than you do Corral. I honestly would be fine with either one. I think Strong is more "pro ready" in that the offense he played in would translate to the NFL faster. Corral runs an RPO heavy scheme, but he is still able to make reads and has a super quick release and strong arm. After all is said and done, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the two best of the bunch.