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I think Burns is a great young edge rusher, especially with our new DC and possibly a 3-4 defense. However if we can use him to land a potential franchise QB right before he is owed a bunch of money, it might be worth it. Use the money we save to sign a vet pass rusher like Reddick or Ngakoue so our pass rush isn’t complete poo and we might be ok.
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He is a young Panther!
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Detroit fan?
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You have to have a QB. Can’t ignore the most important position in sports forever.
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Yeah we would need to sign someone like Ngakoue (Colts FA Reich should be familiar with) to offset the loss.
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Young Levis Stroud?
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https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/could-bears-trade-no-1-pick-to-panthers-for-brian-burns/3068604/?amp=1 @rebelrouserposted this in the draft forum. It’s definitely interesting…
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IF and I mean IF CJ is the guy we think is the next Burrow, we have to trade up to 1 for him. It would be so easy for another team to jump us if we get to pick 3 or 5. We should probably do it before the draft to prevent any chaos. If we can do it and keep our 25 1st it will be a success IMO. 24 1st is probably certainly gone unless we trade a player like Burns.
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I mean the results were awful…
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Sam Ehlinger?
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He seems like the safest pick. I feel like he will become anywhere from a Goff to a Burrow (best case obviously).
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Let’s not pretend like moving up to the mid 3rd to acquire a QB is some insanely high compliment. They were definitely intrigued by him, but if they thought he was a franchise guy the move would have happened a lot sooner. They gave up what a 4th comp and future 3rd for the trade? Corral has some potential, but our staff isn’t heavily invested in him which is why they are probably scouting QBs again for an early pick.
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We will see in April. Whoever goes higher than a mid 3rd is more than likely ranked above him.
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Would you trade Chicago's no. 1 pick for Burns?
ForJimmy replied to rebelrouser's topic in 2015 NFL Draft
Burns plus 9 for the top pick and take Stroud. Sign Ngakoue as a Burns fill in until we find out next pass rusher. I would do this in a second. It will probably take more though… -
We have 2 QBs. You forgot Eason.
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Yeah there is no Aqeel Glass this year…
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Yeah it seems like a pretty big flaw in their system if true. Those high rushing stats probably play some sort part in it though. I know their OL was considered bad before the season and was constantly shuffled/injured, throw it in with Fields sacks piling up (yeah he also holds the ball too long), I just have a hard time believing they aren’t bottom of the league. Looking at the top scramblers Jackson and Hurts also appear to have a top rated PFF OL. It’s definitely interesting… Here is another article in mid December talking about how confusing it is. https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2022/12/16/wut-the-chicago-bears-apparently-have-a-top-10-offensive-line/ Mustipher and Lucas Patrick have pass-blocking grades that rank among the worst five at their respective positions. Meanwhile, Jones has a sub-70 pass-blocking grade as a left tackle. That’s sub-optimal when you consider that you’d want more from Justin Fields’ blindside I guess it only takes 1 or 2 to completely ruin a play. 2 of the starters at the time were bottom 5 with their LT not being too great either (all pass blocking).
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Chicago's OL want ranked higher in PFF mainly due to run blocking. They also battled injuries all year so it was constantly shuffled. https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/grading-the-bears-on-2022-season Their pass blocking was so bad it hid the fact they ran for more yards than any Bears team ever and the most in the league. More than 650 yards of Justin Fields' 1,143 came on scrambles, which weren't planned running plays and resulted from the line's inability to protect him. He suffered a league-high 55 sacks. The line did endure nine starting lineup changes due largely to injuries, but they suffered only one bonafide season-ending injury. Only two offensive linemen had as many as five penalties—Braxton Jones (10) and Sam Mustipher (5)—and those two accounted for seven of the line's 15 holding penalties. This unit was good enough to be ranked 14th best offensive line by Pro Football Focus. They're overrated. This was a ranking skewed greatly by their status as the top rushing team for the first time since 1986, and that rushing total was skewed greatly by Fields' scrambling. Basically their OL pass protection was so bad and their WR's weren't getting open so Fields HAD to run to gain yardage. However his elite scrambling gave his OL higher ratings in run blocking which is really because of their bad pass blocking? I think they broke the PFF algorithm??
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Hopefully they build a team around him and help him achieve his success. If they don't and/or he struggles, yeah they will be in the market again. Year 3 is usually a big year for QBs.
