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https://thedraftnetwork.com/2023-nfl-mock-draft-young-levis-stroud-richardson/ Another mock with us linked to AR.

So you want the same HC and same QBs (Corral and Sam) next year?

I think the needle is pointing up for Fields. He is carrying Chicago's offense and about the only positive about that team. Give him some weapons and see if he can turn some of these games into some wins next year. I might even go as far as saying I'd take him at his current state vs any QB in this draft.

This takes the credit away from his wins as well then. Just load up the OL and run the ball while playing soft zone not matter the opponent, no matter the outcome. If a coach can't attempt to make adjustments then then he doesn't really impress me once. Go down swinging, let Darnold have a shot at airing it out if they are crowding the line, Keep Chinn at LB, spread out the defense a few plays and if one hits, it's a home run. Playing conversate "not to lose" football usually ends up losing anyway so what's the point?? Pitt was able to stay the course because it was working. 156 rushing yards and 3 rushing TDs shows that. I've seen Tomlin let Mitch try to air it out when the running game was stopped (he failed, but he at least attempted to chance his game plan). Even if you have a 10% chance of it working it's better to aim for that vs the 0% chance of continuing the play that isn't working. Same Panthers different HC...

As usual I think you are spot on.

You’re right. No team is going to willingly tank and I kind of don’t blame them…

I think he is saying Wilks may not have these great motivational skills people are claiming he does. Sure they were fired up for a few games (probably because Rhule was gone), but in a game where you are getting outcoached and no adjustments are made, it's hard for players to stay super pumped/motivated. They can only ride they wave for so long IMO. Preparation, adjustment, playing your roster to it's strengths can go much longer than simply trying to pump up your players.

I'm sorry but there isn't some huge talent game between the Panthers and the Steelers (this year). They could use the excuse all day of not having the personnel, but that doesn't mean you don't attempt to spread out that defense to open up the running game. Make some sort of adjustment. I mean has he tried sending Higgins out there since his WRs were struggling to get open in McAdoo's boring system? It fits way more into the mindset is cut form the same cloth as Rivera, Fox, etc... He likes to run the ball and lean on his defense (which is his specialty). It's a conservative boring style of play in which WRs, and QBs will struggle to develop.

Even if he is staying why wouldn't he make any adjustments? I mean he still wants to win games right?

Yep. A decent QB AND a decent OC can make a world of difference.

How can we fairly judge these weapons when we have with McAdoo designing and calling the plays? TMJ was a stud on that loaded LSU team, Moore passed 1000 yards every year with poo for QBs and OCs. A new staff can do wonders for some of these young guys. Hell we don’t even use Higgins who was and decent option in the Browns offense.

I definitely see what you are saying but our rookie is more than likely going to struggling his rookie year anyway. Especially if we draft AR or Levis. The offense will need to be simplified if they are even going to play year one at all. Lawrence, Jones, Fields, and Burrow didn’t have many weapons their rookie year. Hell some of those guys (not named Burrow) still have few weapons. We are going to also have more draft picks (especially after that CMC trade) to acquire some weapons.Normally bad teams are getting these top picks.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/18/panthers-interim-hc-steve-wilks-playoffs-steelers-week-15/

So first we needed a good OL before considering drafting a QB. Now we need an arsenal of weapons for him first? Why are people so worried about us drafting one? It has to be done. We have to find a QB then build around him. If we start building too good of a roster first we could be stuck in Colts land. A good OC can scheme some of our guys open. We do need to draft a TE early, but we are far from the worst place for a rookie QB to play providing we land a good coach.

He said he wanted Brady before he was drafted. Easiest way to tell he is full of poo…

Why??? Why were they running the lateral plays when they were tied??

I can’t believe we have actual posters on this board that are wanting to roll into next year with Darnold and Wilks…

Undefeated without Russ…

Sam played good for Sam. Unfortunately Sam’s good is very pedestrian for your average starting QB. Our offense was just bad…

He watched it through his Sam Darnold Fan Club glasses. Our red zone offense sucked and Sam was slow processing, but that’s just normal for him. DJ made a great catch on his TD.

That’s a good approach. Some like finding your QB then building around him and his strengths. There are several ways to do it, but we have been passing on drafting a QB for too long. I have nothing against Levis, probably prefer AR, but both have some elite traits and need a good bit of coaching/development. Most QBs struggle their rookie year anyway, so year 2/3 is when you load up IMO.

Our OL is decent (yeah they had a bad game today, but overall young and solid). If we draft a TE with one of our 2nd round picks and extend Bozeman we aren’t too far off IMO. Do we need an elite WR? Sure, but we can make do with DJ, TMJ, a cheap vet, and a committee behind them. Let our new HC and QB get their feet wet and then load up around the QB the following offseason when our cap is cleared up. It’s a decent path forward IMO.

I think we are saying different things but possibly agreeing. I think our current staff is terrible. However, if we get the right group of coaches I don’t think we are a terrible landing spot for a rookie QB.

Just shows how much of a difference a new HC can make. Hopefully we will get one of those this offseason.