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What went wrong? Matt Rhule plus Sam Darnold = bad coach plus bad QB.

Tua did better with a worse OL. That gives you an idea of how bad Sam is.

He is the worst troll around.

No surprises here. Other coaches got fired after 2 bad seasons (of which were better than Rhule’s). I would hope he will have a short leash this year, but who knows with Tepper as the owner…

I think that article is just using an average QB to show our roster is actually pretty decent top to bottom except for QB. If we add an average one like Tannehill we would be a solid team (in that writer's opinion). I don't think there is any smoke there.

Sometimes. Sometimes the company I work for "settles" because it's the cheapest most efficient way to move on from the issue at hand. Do you want to spend more money/time in court to just pay out and move on. I wouldn't say the "settle" parts makes him guilty as much as the 24 different women with similar stories does.

That's when we were extra stupid and thought we were a playoff team. Gilmore was to replace Horn after he got hurt.

Campen, Wilks, and McAdoo (like him or not he is better than Brady) definitely improve our staff. There is more talent on the OL than we have seen in a long time. Our secondary is full of youth with great physical traits in Chinn, Horn, DJax, CJ, and Woods, DJ Moore has proven to be a great WR who we have secured for a while, Corral gives us a young promising QB to watch in practice/TC throughout the year, special teams has a better coach with a better punter and some stability at kicker.

CB is more of a premium position than LB lately. Dean is probably going to take a year to get healthy. Henderson has all the physical tools an elite CB needs, he just needs to put it all together mentally. If Wilks can teach him then we will be happy to have only given up a 3rd for him. The DJax contract does make me think they aren't all in on Henderson though...

The legal issues are terrible, but player to player Watson is an upgrade over most QBs in the league including Baker (who I would consider mid-level). The Falcons lost Matt Ryan over a chance to trade for Watson. Desperate franchises (like us) went all in on Watson because when it's all said and done they know he will eventually play and probably play very well. Jimmy G's team gave up 3 first round picks for a rookie that has never taken an NFL snap and played for NDSU to replace him. It's a pretty big difference IMO. If Watson plays like he has when he does, that Browns team can be Super Bowl contenders. Can you say the same for Lance and the Niners? If Watson went to the Saints they would probably be in the mix as well.

Wilks will have him playing well!

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I was born for this poo!

Jimmy G's 2021 playoff performance is some of the worst tape you will see from a QB on a loaded team. He played decent against the Rams, but outside of that.... it was bad. Jimmy G is also 3.5 years older than Baker and has had the McDaniels and Shanahan developing him vs Hugh Jackson, Kitchen, and Stefanski. That tells me Baker has room to grow and Jimmy G is playing at his peak.

That’s not that dumb and looks very possible right now…

Statistically speaking, Sam's rating drops when he has more time. Maybe it's because he is so use to having no time, he freaks out when he does and rushes his progressions. I think he does good (as do most QBs) when the first read is open. When it's not he struggles with progressions and wants to improvise with some bad habits. I watched him get pulled last year and he legitimately looked scared on the sidelines. When Baker is on the sidelines after a bad series/game he looks pissed off like he wants to go back out there and make a play. I think Sam is just mentally weak (from a football/competitive standpoint) and even with a good OL won't have much progress. Baker is almost the opposite where he can be overconfident and get himself into some trouble. When it comes to scared vs overconfident in a QB, I'll always take the latter.

Yeah but you know nothing!

A 5th and they would need to eat a chunk of his salary. RA would work for me too, but we would need to try to unload Sam somewhere even if we eat a chunk of his salary.

If we promote him mid season there is still a good chance we bring in an outside HC the following year. The Raiders intermediate HC got them in the playoffs and was still replaced this past year.

Unless the word is win more games this year or else. Three straight years of 5 or less win seasons for a coach who hasn’t had any success in the NFL should get him fired. If Corral flashes I could see them wanting to get an offensive coach to fully develop him. The Chargers fired their coach after Herbert showed potential and the Browns did the same with Jackson/Kitchen and Baker.

I’d prefer Baker because the Browns were awful when he first arrived and he still played decent. I think there is a small chance he can be a franchise guy vs Jimmy who has reached his ceiling.

Another shitty useless post.

Maybe. He dropped his INTs from 21 his second year to 8 the following year. That shows he is learning and developing. Last year was a bit of a wash for him since he played through injuries that would normally sideline him. He went to the worst team in the league and has had a better career than Darnold. The 2 really aren’t comparable. There are 2 solid reasons not to want Baker IMO. The first is he isn’t good enough to push us in a top class to compete in the playoffs. The second is he takes away snaps to develop Corral. I can’t find a legit analyst anywhere that says he is on par with Darnold…

Tepper is the only one who can fire Rhule. His GM can’t make that call so that leaves the owner. We want him to leave it to the football people, but he can’t help himself. Running to “Mr Whip It Out” every year and making an offer for him only to get rejected. Offering a college coach with no experience a stupid contract to coach/run his team. According to some on here, he is still great and much better than Jordan…