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I guess my point is QBs like The Golden Calf of Bristol can’t last in the league period. You have to be able to throw as well. He lasted what 2-3 years? I think Vick was a better passer than he is getting credit for the Falcons just didn’t develop him. Andy Reid turned him into a much better passer. So the whole thing is weird and kind of pointless. Is there a QB that has played 10 plus years that couldn’t throw the ball?? It’s like saying QBs than can’t read defenses don’t win Super Bowls. Well yeah they don’t make it period..

I wouldn’t be totally against signing Baker for cheap if the Browns release him. I just don’t want to trade away any picks or take on his full salary. Baker with Neal/Cross at 6 would greatly improve our offense and we can get a comp for him if we let him walk next year and draft our guy.

I’ll watch and then I’ll bitch and cry because I’m a Panthers fan damn it and that’s what we do! (Well I’ll at least look for highlights if there are any)

I’m saying you are a new account that is already trolling making up stats. If it acts like a Chuck and posts like a Chuck….

I like his name…

He is just a dumb troll. Russ didn't have Metcalf when he won and Cam had Smith for like a year. He has no clue what he is even talking about. The Falcons used Vick as a runner too much because it was easy for the OC and they didn't have a solid OL or playmakers around him. Look how much better he was in the pocket at PHI with Andy Reid.

That's all up to the OC. Josh Allen ran the ball over 7 times a game last year (a career high which lead to a career best season) through the 17 games. They want the defense to respect his rushing ability to open up the deep pass. Hell they zone reads for him to run with the ball. They are using his athletic ability to help his passing game. Once again your logic is flawed. This is EXACTLY what teams are wanting to use Willis for (he is how all this poo got started a couple days ago). Regardless the "Running QB" is here to stay and QBs that are strictly pocket passers aren't as desirable. Go check out Carson Strong vs Malik Willis.

You are making up nonsense. Pure running QBs like The Golden Calf of Bristol, and Hill don't make it period as starting QBs. Was Cam a running QB? Because he also could throw (broke 4000 yards when he had an actual WR in Smith and broke 3800 in 2012 and 2015). The TOP RUSHING QBs of ALL TIME are on a list I posted in which 4/11 have rings. If the top rushing QBs off all time don't count as running QBs you have created some stupid category that makes no sense featuring random players like The Golden Calf of Bristol, Hill, and RG3 in which you randomly lump Lamar, Vick, Murray, McNabb and Cam? into (two of which carried their teams to the Super Bowl).

Allen’s rushing yards are going up every year. He had over 750 rushing yards last year and they call running plays for him. Allen is a running QB, Hill isn’t a QB. Hill is a TE/HB/Gimmick player.

OP has an account just created this month. At this point it’s clear he is strictly a troll account.

Cam had Smith his rookie year after taking over a team that finished 1-15. He took a team with Philly Brown, Funchess, and Cotchery to the Super Bowl. I swear it’s like you don’t even watch the games. Metcalf wasn’t on the team when Russ won his. Doug Baldwin was his top guy. So Josh Allen will never win a Super Bowl? The Bills should just trade him right?? I’ll make it simple. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask?q=most+rushing+yards+by+a+quarterback+all-time Everyone can read the list of most rushing yards by a QB and see who has Super Bowls.

I’m not sure you know what triggered means? Calling a statement dumb is far from it. I just gave you some data to show how dumb it was.

They don't like mentioning Josh Allen either. It's like they are in denial.... Yeah Cam is the reason we lost the Super Bowl and Manning was the reason they won. Makes so much sense!

It’s dumb how you pivot and define running QBs to fit a small scale. 4 of the top 11 QBs with the most rushing yards all time have rings. Period. So out of the top 11 QBs that have the most career rushing yards 36-37% won a Super Bowl. Here is a dumb blanket statement for you. Based on history, pocket QBs have a higher chance of busting than QBs that can run.

He could be, but he is still pretty young. Cousins is getting up there in age. Keep in mind the Cards were the worst team in the league when they drafted him.

Mahomes got shut down in the playoffs too and has probably missed 3 games in 3 years. The playoffs are tough. He is a young QB who was new in the playoffs, give the man some time. I’m not writing off a young QB who was in the MVP race as injury prone or overrated after one playoff performance. That would be an overreaction IMO. If he struggles next season then I understand.

Such a dumb argument. Hill, RG3, The Golden Calf of Bristol are all busts that never made it as QBs in the NFL. Hill isn’t even a QB honestly… Should I make pocket QBs who have busted? Your list is just Cam, Lamar, Vick, and Murray. If you think Cam’s running ability is why we lost the Super Bowl you weren’t watching the game. Vick wasn’t developed by the Falcons leading to injuries and then the off fields issues messed his career up. Andy Reid coached him up in Philadelphia, but it was later in his career. Running QBs can be developed into Josh Allen, Steve Young, Elway, Rodgers type players than can beat you in the pocket or make you pay with their legs. The problem is teams seem hesitant to beef up the OL when they have QBs that can run like the Cards, Panthers with Cam, and Falcons. You have to build a team around any QB to win it all. The Bills are doing it right and will have as good a chance as anyone to win it all with a QB who can run and has running plays drawn up for him.

3 games in 3 years isn’t injury prone. Burrow has missed more on average than Kyler. I don’t want Kyler because I don’t want to pay out these huge QB contracts. We aren’t ready yet for that…

Just leave Sam on the team and eat the salary. We need to own our mistake and not give away assets to move him. He can be our emergency QB.

Wilson’s was insane. He really makes it look effortless… If they can build a team around him NYJ might have something special.

What about a trade down then Howell?

Yeah that’s mostly mental. People calling Howell a Baker clone are referring to his physical ability. They seem like opposites mentally…

Then why laugh at the comment a smart team would draft Howell who you consider a “Baker clone?”