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Ideally we wouldn’t have this line with this staff. But yeah Burrow got IRed behind his terrible line his rookie year, so I see your point.

It’s coaching. Miller, Scott, and Daley (at G) have looked decent in the past. Also looks like BC might be benched for Erving while MJ and Miller will be starting… https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/gm-report/carolina-panthers-release-depth-chart-vs-saints-12-29 The only think left interesting in this team was if BC can progress into a decent LT, but we might not even know this year…

If Rhule is making the call/still here, I want us to just draft a blue chip OL and move on. If it’s a new staff then I’d be interested to see what they do with the QB position.

His year was way better than any year Darnold had with less talent around him. When a player is breaking Watson’s ACC stats with Pitt talent around him I take notice. He has also broken several of Marino’s records from Pitt. This past offseason he went to Manning’s camp and got a lot of one on one time with him and has caught fire with what he learned. 42 TDs to 7 INTs in pretty impressive in itself. Burrow also only had one good year put in the work his final season and crushed it. He reminds me of a Burrow-Lite. Here is a mid season comparison of the two. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2022-nfl-draft-is-kenny-pickett-the-next-joe-burrow-examining-the-pittsburgh-qbs-dominant-2021-campaign/amp/ He has just become a smart player with more than enough athletic ability and arm strength.

Draft choice. The Saints won’t do poo in the playoffs… Plus I don’t want Rhule to show any signs of improvement at this point. Another 5 win season should tempt Tepper to fire him.

Even Darnold looked solid in college. It wouldn’t be close…

Yeah or a top LT/Pass Rusher. I mean worst case it we have no trade options and just take a stud OL.

Yeah as far as where we are picking, maybe Pickett is worth it? Trading down would match the value plus we could get an OL with the additional pick/picks. I just really want a new coach and then QB or OL would make me happy in the draft.

He doesn’t really want him back. He just wants to be “that guy” that goes against what everyone else is saying.

Consumers paying money for a product expect results as they should. The booing/cheering comes with sports. If the coach started benching Robbie for a younger WR because he kept dropping catches he would probably be pretty vocal about it on the sidelines especially before he got his extension.

lol sarcasm?

So our 3rd round rookie that got his second start at LT after being shuffled around all season allowed a sack and pressure against an elite pass rusher? He also held a couple times that didn’t get called. What a terrible LT. Might as well call him a bust! He allowed as many sacks as Moton against a good DL.

2 holds that didn’t get called? That’s like every OL in the league. How often are we screaming about our guys getting held by these better OL we are playing against.

He is a better option than Daley was at LT. Moving a 3rd round rookie all around the line isn’t doing him any favors either. Keep these OL at one position and let them build chemistry and develop. I was just watching the Chiefs game and they were talking about how it took so many games for their OL to develop chemistry they are starting a 6th round G, new FA G, and LT they traded for. We haven’t had the same line up at any week.

You just named busts which there are plenty OL busts as well. We had Otah and Matt Kalil who were drafted in the first. Erving was also drafted in the first. Busts happen and are part of the draft process. Russell was drafted based on potential just like Josh Allen. One worked out and one didn’t. I have no problem taking OL first, but the OL shouldn’t decide if we draft a QB or not. QB comes first, if we see no reasonable options then OL is a huge need.

Seriously, the Bucs have a great DL and our OL has been bad. A 3rd round rookie starts and gives up 2 bad plays to an elite pass rusher and he played terrible? He looked like a capable NFL LT, now get him a solid LG and capable coaching staff and he could be a good LT.

Just stating that people screaming for us not to draft a QB until we fix our OL has been debunked by many of those rookie QBs I named. Yes you will have to pay a premium for a premium FA OL like the Chiefs did with Thuney last offseason, Schreff is going to be a FA from that dominant WFT OL on the top of my head. There are usually good OL FAs you just have to pay for them. There are never good QB FAs. Finally solid interior OL can be drafted in the later rounds. It’s easier/quicker to fix the OL than replacing a QB. The Jags have actually invested a lot in their OL. Lawrence playing poorly is more due to coaching IMO. If our current staff or (hopefully) new staff are high on a QB like Pickett, they should just draft him. Once you get a rookie QB on the cheap pay scale you can really payout for the better FA OL and start drafting OL/weapons for him that fit his skill set the following year.

Ok so worst case scenario he gave up one pressure and one sack in his second start on a terrible line with a terrible coach against a top pass rusher? Keep playing him at his natural position and he will get better.

Yep he should have several games of experience at ONE position being LT. He would be playing even better if that were the case. If I recall even Sewell struggled his first couple of starts. BC should be an option for us at LT next year and I want to see Brown play some RG. Miller is a vet that we all knows sucks and doesn’t need to play anymore, same for Daley.

Interior line is THAT bad. Moton is always solid at RT and BC showed promise at LT. Imagine if he had a solid vet LG to help him out. Now let’s see what Brown can do at RG.

It was over before it started.

I’ve said this countless times. The most common approach lately is to take your QB and then develop a line around him like Herbert, Burrow, Murray and the Browns tried with Baker (he just may not be the guy). A line can be adjusted in the offseason a solid FA and some late round guards. They won’t be top 10, but BC is looking good at LT again with Moton at RT are good starting points. The only question this year is if there is a QB worth a top 10 pick or not.