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Oh I understand the long term benefits. I’m saying a GM (who was already paired with one HC that has been fired) doesn’t typically have that kind of time. Even if we struck gold with pick 36 (2nd round pass rushers hasn’t been our strength see Evette Brown and YGM) it still won’t produce what Burns will. Something else to remember is Evero said Burns is one of the main reasons he took this job. If Fitt makes that trade Evero might sign with the Vikings. I think we are trying to put together a good defense paired with a solid running game to help Young his rookie year. Burns being our best defender is a big part of that plan.

Higgins AND a future 1st wouldn’t happen. Plus Higgins is about to need a new contract as well. He is a great WR but have Chase draft the top defenses plus a safety every game makes life easier for him. I’m not sure he has the same results as a definite WR1 on an offense. Now imagine every QB we play having 5 seconds of a clean pocket because we have no pass rush. Imagine Young taking extra hits because we are constantly playing from behind. Burns is still very valuable to this franchise.

No I completely agree he isn’t on Bosa’s level and I don’t think anyone can argue that. Crosby is a good comp, but all I’m saying is he will make more than Crosby if that’s his comp. Just like Crosby would make more than Burns if he signed a new contract a year later. Each year the contracts rise. It we get Burns for 26-27 a year it would be similar to Crosby’s 23.5 a year he signed last year. Yeah the trade would have been nice for people patient enough to see the long term results. Huddlers can’t get through preseason without explosive overreactions. I’m not not sure Fitt has the time to let those future picks develop into solid players as well. It sucks but I understand why he turned in down.

I heard they mentioned a 2nd too but I assumed it was a future pick as well. Where are you getting the $30 million we save right now? Regardless you better hope that 2nd round rookie develops fast or our pass rush will be nonexistent. Having Young constantly playing from behind isn’t good for his development or health either. Assuming Stafford gets hurt is also a gamble (though a likely one it seems), but Burns rushing the QB with Donald could be a scary combo. At the time I was for the trade, but I can understand passing on it. Burns entering his peak as a top 10 pass rusher is worth more to a GM than a 2nd and some future 1sts one and two years down the line. I don’t know how short of a leash Tepper has for Fitt. It’s not too far off from what the Texans gave up for Anderson (who is unproven but will be on a rookie contract).

Was it a current 2nd and 2 future 1sts?

Good source!

Massive!

True but it’s a slippery slope. Without Burns we would probably reach on a pass rusher in the 2nd leaving Young without Mingo. I mean if our front 7 looks questionable now, imagine it without Burns. Those Rams picks can’t be used until the next two drafts.

The Rams deal was a good offer, but keep in mind future and even further future firsts have much less value to GMs than current firsts.

We could definitely use him.

Daniel Jones just made big money and he was an average QB for one year. As for Goff he signed a 4 year 134 million contract in 2020 and the Lions are working on an extension for him now. At the time that was a premium contract for a QB. Burns just finished tied for 8 in the league for sacks with JJ Watt and Crosby. He is trending up and moving to his more natural position with the best DC he has worked with yet. Unfortunately he is going to demand some money. I’m just preparing people that most of these contacts will look bad until the market resets again and new contracts are given to premium pass rushers again. It’s the nature of the beast that is the growing salary cap.

Really? Damn even peak Robby was an average Moore looking at stats.

That’s not the point though. The average contract for most premium positions (LT, CB, WR, DE etc) will go up every year. The most recently signed players will have contracts that will look bloated until the next round of contracts are due. The growing salary cap causes this. Hill, Adams, and AJ Brown are all top 5 WRs in pay this year because they were the more recently signed contracts amongst the top WRs. Jefferson and Chase will probably make even more when their contracts come due.

Yeah people forget the average price goes up every year. Lamar, Herbert, and Hurts don’t “deserve” to get paid more than Mahomes, but they happen to be the most recent franchise QBs that signed new contracts.

Are we really complaining about not picking up the 53rd player yet with Sullivan on IR? Is this really where we are at right now??

I think they finished pretty strong and have a lot of returning starters.

Cards are fully committed

Yeah that was a fun one!

No he definitely has shades of Mahomes in his playing style. Young did too in college. Doing that in the NFL is going to be a different story though.

I love a good shoot out when I don’t care who wins. Just get to sit back and enjoy some good offenses do their thing.

Say what you will, but he knows his poo. I’ve gotten in a few pissing matches with him and came up on the short end each time.

Ok Caleb is great and should be the top pick no questions asked, but better than Mahomes? Mahomes was playing at Texas Tech with Kliff Kingsbury which is waaaaaay different than USC and Lincoln Riley. Mahomes is also a much better NFL QB than he ever was in college. He was a system QB with a live arm in college, but I’ll definitely have to wait and see until I deem anyone better than Mahomes. You gotta respect the top player in the NFL.

7-10 is a popular choice in the NFC. It looks like they are predicting 6 of the 16 teams to finish with that record.