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None of those were 1st rounds picks, I believe Pryor was in the supplemental draft, Smith was the end of the 5th round, Jones was the 4th (I can't really call any of those a bust). Those are Tressell QBs that were in a gimmick offense made for college, Ryan Day runs a much more pro style offense. The previous 1st round bust before Haskins was from the 1980s, and the 1940s before that (who died in combat). They are definitely not setting up Fields for success with two 5th round tackles and Mooney as his only half way decent weapon. I'm not sure running Cam shortened his career as much as us never giving him a good OL. His long term injuries came from hits in the pocket (looking at you TJ Watt).

I haven’t given up on Fields just yet (yes I am still quite the fanboy) and he landed in a terrible spot. Before Fields OSU had Haskins and who else as a first round QB bust?

Right now for me it's Stroud- seems to be the most complete with everything you want in a QB (size, athletics ability, intelligence, arm) Young/Levis- Levis has the tools but has never really dominated a game (he is usually playing for a Kentucky team that is outmatch). Young looks the part, but size and durability concern me. He likes to extend plays and take hits which might cause trouble on the next level Hooker- Checks a lot of boxes even with the age thing, but that offense is designed to catch the defense off balance and have wide open WRs. I think he is a hardworking good sized QB that will put in the work to be solid at the next level Penix Jr- Check him out over at Washington. He put up not so impressive numbers at Indiana but is looking great since he transferred. He is a lefty gunslinger that has decent size and mobility to go along with it. I'm curious to see how he finishes out the season

I mean it makes some sense. LT might be the second most important position on the team. If you imagine a similar situation but with QBs instead then it’s a stronger case. Say we draft Stoud in the top 10 and have Foles as his vet backup. If Stroud is bonding with Foles and he is really mentoring him into his role, I don’t think you flip Foles midseason for a late pick. It’s good for a rookie to have that mentor at least for a full season.

Pretty sure Cam had plenty of batted balls and Josh Allen is towards the top of the league right now. Both are/were tall QBs.

Yep. Good trade for a high mileage overpaid RB.

Sure I can. We eat it in one lump sum and aren’t hurting our cap in 2024 and 2025 with it. That’s the name of the game right now. Take our lump this year from all these shitty contracts and be done with them after than. The picks obviously help with our future as well.

The Niners have Debo Samuel and George Kittle to take some pressure off CMC. He success there doesn't necessarily translate to success here. We needed to clear that RB salary off our books. Yeah we take a big his this year but that's it. We can wash our hands of overpriced RBs and hopefully not make that mistake again....

Wait are you two not the same poster??

Gross was rock solid and should have been able to retire whenever he felt like it. Very smart player too.

His shoulder is what gave out. His head and mind are fine. They were some bull poo no calls, but his throwing shoulder is what has officially given out.

We never gave Cam a proper OL. When he had Oher and Remmers (who were average to below) he took us to the damn Super Bowl.

I can’t figure out who is getting paid on their roster. Rookie QB, no real weapons, no OL, a decent defense I suppose…

Yeah it’s by design. It’s like the FO thought “he can run, we don’t need an OL.”

Fun fact his 2 starting tackles were 5th round picks (and it shows).

“It’s a message board you don’t have to agree.” See when takes are bad people can also respond like you just did.

I think he has potential, but is in a situation where it’s near impossible to succeed. You don’t like a certain type of QB for some reason and are complaining a second year QB isn’t going through reads when he is on track to be sacked 8 times this game. Let me guess you are liking Zappe right?

I just love the one read and run comments. He is on track to be sacked 8 times this game and they are bitching he isn’t going through reads?? Really??

9/13 with 133 passing yards one TD and one INT while being sacked 4 times in one half.

It tells me his pocket is collapsing. That and literally watching it happen on TV. One read and run yet he has been sacked 4 times in one half? Hmmmm

Who can he throw it to with no weapons and no time? Another terrible take. Running didn’t shorten Cam’s career, Watt’s hit to Cam’s shoulder while he was in the pocket did. Having Fields play behind this OL is more dangerous than having him run.

His OL has been all bust.

The Bears are going to shorten Fields career with this atrocious OL, but damn he has some heart and toughness.

Fields behind our OL would be interesting. Obviously needs an OC as well…

It’s people that don’t like “running QBs” and want to be right about not liking him before the draft.