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His hands certainly weren't in it last year...

Glad we let him walk. Great athlete, just can’t stay healthy. With that said, I’d be ok with him coming here for a relatively cheap contract. Another team will probably throw money at him though…

We hate Rhule? I find him hilarious!

If Corral shows any potential and we still fire Rhule, we would be a very attractive destination for any coaching candidate. Hell even if Corral doesn’t look the part they could draft their QB from this 23 class.

Joe Brady was clearly not a good OC, I agree there. My point is wherever Darnold goes to play the offense crumbles. He simply can't read defenses. His numbers were actually worse when he had more time in the pocket. He isn't going to go from dead last in the league to a good QB because we brought in McAdoo who might be an average OC (not unlike Gase before the Jets). Our staff was and is still very eager to move on from him for a reason.

The in game adjustments didn't happen in 2020 either. No one is saying our offense was great or even good it 2020 because it wasn't. It was boring/predictable and pretty bad. It got much worse with Sam because of his constant turnovers. Teddy wasn't that great for us which is why we moved on from him so quickly. He wouldn't test the defense and was pretty terrible in the redzone (which was also on the staff as they never practiced redone offense apparently). So Joe Brady's offense was bad with Teddy, but much worse with Darnold and then once Brady was fired the new OC still struggled with Darnold as did every coach that was around him. Let's take a look at Adam Gase with Darnold. As the OC for the Broncos Gase helped Manning have a record-breaking passing season and then win a Super Bowl the following year. Obviously Manning made this job easy and their offense was pretty bad during their Super Bowl run, so their are still many questions. . He then became the OC for the Chicago Bears in which the team finished 18th in total offense which is below average but not terrible. Then he went to Miami as the head coach and went 23-25 which we can call "below average slightly." He goes to NYJ and gets Darnold in 2019 right after his rookie year. Finishes his tenure 9-23 with a terrible offense led by.... Sam Darnold. One could argue Gase was an average coach that got stuck with Sam Darnold and ruined his career.

He was literally on the field with the players last year. This is just nonsense that Sizzle made up while he accuses reporters of doing the same.

Honestly I think he is an ok OC, just not head coach. We could use an average OC because we haven't had a good one in a while. With that said he nor could any OC in this league magically fix Sam into learning how to read a defense.

He was waiting on the right situation, saw Sam Darnold and was like "perfect!" Seriously though, there would be cases of him turning down interviews if he was in such demand waiting for the perfect scenario. The intermediate coach thing isn't the best way to become a head coach. Unless he can completely turn the team around he would probably be replaced once the season is over. The Raiders interm coach got them into the playoffs and way still replaced.

Teams can figure out an OC during a season, just look at previous game tapes. It's not like we didn't know what Teddy was going to do (check down and throw it short of the line of scrimmage). He just wasn't going to pull a Sam and roll out and throw it directly into the CB's hands on the wrong team. He can't read defenses so once the defenses took away his first read that is all she wrote. Sam looked decent early in the season when his first read was open or he could just run it in the endzone without going through progressions. Then teams watched tape (during the season) and took this away from him while he crashed and burned. The same thing happened at NYJ (seeing "ghosts" means he has no clue what he is looking at). I mean he is on year 5 now and shown zero improvement. It's not like the Chargers/Bengals had some great staff they surrounded their young QBs with from the beginning. The good QBs can still look decent with a weak staff around them. Darnold just makes a weak staff look worse...

Stafford was always good at Detroit. That's why the Rams knew he was the missing piece and a big upgrade over Goff. He regularly broke 4000 passing yards with a 90 plus rating. There was just not much talent around him which prevented him from getting wins and making the playoffs. Our offense dropped dramatically from Teddy to Darnold. Same OC and pretty much the same players which tells me Sam is a good bit below Teddy who is pretty much a solid backup.

Rodney Peete. Wait what? I meant Nick Goings.

confirmed.

#FakeNews Luke was joining the Panthers at practice with Greg just last August and was on the field with the players mingling and having a good time. It was after he did the same at Buffalo. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/08/25/franchise-greats-luke-kuechly-greg-olsen-panthers-practice/

I can’t figure Brady out at all. He is defying science at this point in his career. At some point his skills have to diminish, but he was top of the league statistically last year…

It’s your opinion, feel free to give it. There is not right/wrong answer here as every QB on that list is great.

Yeah I see your points. My issue with Herbert is he hasn't taken his team to the playoffs yet and they have a decent roster. Brady was right behind Rodgers in the MVP race, but he also has a loaded team, but has proven he can win with less (but can he still at this point in his career). It's tough to establish and pretty fun to debate IMO. I was pretty much debating myself on where I rank Brady.

Woods will help a lot IMO. He lets Chinn become more of a box SS when needed which is like upgrading two positions for one player. I think Littleton and Wilson are both upgrades at the LB spot as well which will help our run defense. Reddick was a great pass rusher, but having him and Burns on the field at once really hurt our run defense. Hopefully YGM starts opposite of Burns and helps our run defense. Ioaninidis could he a solid pick up at the DT sport as well, because Jones was a disappointment last year. I see FS Woods, MLB Wilson, SLB Littleton, RDT Ioanidis, RDE YGM as 5 new starters (yes YGM played last year, but was limited behind Reddick and with injuries) and Chinn getting to play his more natural position. If you include Horn we have nearly as many new starters and repeat from last year.

I got Burrow Mahomes Rodgers Allen Brady Herbert Russ Stafford

When Allen is firing on all cylinders he might be the best, he is still a little streaky at times. Rodgers is the best regular season QB, but he has been struggling a little in the playoffs as of lately. It's funny that I forgot Burrow because he might be the best IMO. He and Herbert both have a smaller resume, but what he did with no OL was pretty impressive. Chase helps a lot clearly...

Nice catch, dance moves need some work.

Damn. Yep! He is ok I guess....

Who is left? Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Russ, Stafford, and I am missing one? PJ or Corral?