ForJimmy

Whoever this staff values as a potential franchise QB. Fields would be MY preference, but I have no clue who they want. I mean something crazy might happen and Wilson might fall to 8. Do we still pass on him because we have Darnold? A QB that had a rough start and we traded a future 2nd for isn’t our absolute final answer.

Top 10 on backups?? If we take Fields at 8 he is our guy. Darnold may start like Smith did to Mahomes, but our 2nd rounder next year would be a sunk cost...

I think we are saying the same thing. I’m saying if a guy we like is there at 8 we draft him. Darnold is our backup plan that we locked up.

Verge gave a good breakdown of recent success of 1st round picks vs later in the past 7 years or so. It heavily favored 1st round, but I’m not sure it matters as Darnold was also a first round pick??

A 2nd rounder next year and a 4th and 6th rounder (comp). Far from a huge haul for your next franchise QB. You don’t pass on a top QB talent that falls in your lap unless you have a franchise QB. https://www.google.com/amp/s/sportsnaut.com/new-york-jets-rumors-sam-darnold-trade-080321/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/jetswire.usatoday.com/2021/03/09/8-teams-called-new-york-jets-sam-darnold-trade/amp/ Looks like 8 teams were interested in mid March. In early April we were the one team who kept pushing for him after Ohio St’s Pro Day. They next phase would be waiting until after/during the draft. You would think half of these teams interested aren’t getting their guy in the draft, so then what happens? A bidding war.

Nah I was told we shouldn’t draft a lineman in round two because our old GM did with Little and he sucked....

I would love Sherman down here. I know he is old, but he is such a smart player.

That’s a bold conclusion you have come to about that song? They must think highly of themselves to think that song is about them at all.

Because if the top 5 guys go early, other teams may jump in on Darnold starting a bidding war. Fitts said he wanted to address a need before the draft so we have more flexibility during it. Like I said earlier if the top guts are gone before 8, I’ll be very happy we made that trade.

I think he prevents them from acting desperate. If one happens to fall to then they love, I wouldn’t rule it out...

Yeah for me it’s Fields or LT. I’m just stating we don’t know what they want or who they like. They met a huge need with Darnold, but that just prevents them from acting desperate for a signal caller. If one they love falls on their laps it not crazy to think they will draft him.

Unless they don’t think Lance will be there at 8 and can’t afford to trade multiple 1st round picks to draft him. Especially with ATL at 4 trying to trade it.

That’s how our old GM did yes. I can do the same thing and say drafting a top LT gets you Matt Kalil... See it doesn’t really work that way. You can’t say never take a position at a certain round because another staff failed at it...

I agree, but if they think in a year Lance can be the next big thing. We have Darnold for 2 years and if we salvage him can probably either trade him or get a nice comp once Lance is ready. I don’t think you draft an unfinished product at 8 though, but that could be their justification if they do.

I mean the guy we draft at 8 can bust too. It’s always an educated guess/ thinking. I’m not against taking a LT. I am if Fields is there at 8. I’m also very high on Fields and don’t justify Darnold as a reason for passing on him. Before we had Darnold people were fine with taking a QB in 1 and LT in 2. Darnold doesn’t change that in my eyes. He makes us more comfortable sitting at 8 and seeing what happens. Fitts just said drafting a QB is still an option and our staff hasn’t been good at hiding their intentions. Look if/when Fields is gone before 8, I’ll love getting Sewell/Slater and I will be glad we got Darnold.

This draft is suppose to be deep at LT. We also had different people drafting players in the past. Can’t hold Fitts/Rhule accountable for Hurney’s mistakes. Your option is assuming Darnold is a capable starting QB in this league. He might be or he might not be. Darnold is our backup plan in case the draft goes QB crazy which is probably will. It also prevents us from having to compete in a bidding war to move up. Im just saying, only IF our guy falls to 8, we draft him. Let Darnold and him battle it out. Having two talented QBs wouldn’t be a bad thing. Darnold might even start until the rookie is ready. I think Fields is a blue chip QB that would be too good of a prospect to pass on compared to Darnold. Hopefully we will never draft this high again for a while...

I think we can get one in round 2. If Fields is gone (which he probably will be) then I’m all for Sewell, Slater, or Lance (depending on how they view him).

The analysts I’m seeing seem pretty split, with more still high on Donald. He is very much a big question mark, not unlike these draft prospects...

Because they had a proven, HoF, still playing at an elite level QB? Darnold is a project and far from a sure thing, doubling up just increases our chances of having our next franchise QB especially if a talent like Fields falls to us. It’s really not the same thing at all... The Packers were just in the NFC championship game and still have a window to win it all. We are rebuilding so finding a young QB is possibly the most important part of this rebuild.

So says Atlanta. They are trying to increase the value/demand of their pick. If a team trades multiple first round picks for it then so be it. That’s why we locked up our back up plan. That still leaves 3 picks for Lance or Fields (whichever doesn’t go at 4) to fall IF there is even a trade up. We are in a much better position than before. Either one of the guys we like fall to 8 and we draft him and can even let Darnold start until he is ready. If they all are gone by 8, we already have our backup plan and can grab a LT to protect him.

Not yet!

If Fields is there, you taken him immediately. If Lance is there then you have a tough decision to make. If they are both gone Slater or Sewell. Surtain should be worse case scenario...

To me he is our backup plan in case no other QB falls that we like and the capital is too much to go up and get one (thanks Niners). If one falls and we draft them no one will care about our 2nd next year and if they all go above us, we will be happy we traded for Darnold. It really makes sense. It’s like the GM that helped Seattle be a consistent, competitive team knows what he is doing...

Some teams like Slater better so possibly 5 QBs, Pitts, and Slater/Chase/Smith could all go 1-7. I’ll be happy with Slater too.