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Carolina was down by 2 points at the start of the 4th quarter against Seattle before Seattle scored 2 more TDs and that was after being down by only a point at halftime. Denver was up 28-7 before Carolina scored a TD with 18 seconds left and it was 21-7 at halftime with Denver in full control. Not comparable in the slightest.

I don't care what Caleb Williams is doing and am not really sure how that's relevant. As I said though his 'improvement' is a return to baseline IMO and not anything markedly different resulting in any different outcomes. If you want to celebrate that then OK, but folks that aren't impressed have an arguably even more valid position. As I have said many,any times with Bryce and Canales both, time and consistency or lack thereof will tell the story. With respect to Bryce we have consistently seen him be poor vs even average.

Very few actively want him to fail. But many recognize his very limited ceiling and feel that applauding 125 yards against the Giants, or any of these recent weeks, as 'improvement' is ludicrous. Sure, it's better than he was, but dude was playing D3 football in the NFL those first weeks of this season.

Dropping Burns was a no-brainer and Fitterer's ineptitude rightly or wrongly makes Morgan look that much better for this 101-level move. However, where he does deserve credit IMO is that the money has been spent wisely and that was always the point, to spread Burns' value and get more than the sum of the parts. It was never about 'using the Burns picks to replace Burns in the draft' as a portion of the fanbase liked to clamor.

Pretty typical Burns game. Sack early, maybe get close once or twice and then vanish for the rest of the time. $30MM saved, y'all. I took so much heat for being the dissenting voice during that 2022/2023 offseason...

It's another win for the team but Bryce himself continues to meddle well below the Dalton line.

If you can't see that 'improvement' is relative to how atrocious he was at the start of the year and that he's not outperforming his rookie year at all, there is no need for a discussion since you either have an agenda or no clue. Likely both.

The fan equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome on full display with this post.

Yeah, not sure I'd go that far at this point.

It's very possible. Would be quite the continuing coincidence if it happens. The corollary here is that the day a coach loses to Carolina and doesn't get fired is the day that we know the Panthers are viewed as more than a relegation-level team by the rest of the league, as it will be reasonable to lose to them.

Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl with that type of skill position performance last year.

So much for that need. Thanks, Giants.

And this is in a game where Bryce/the QB is, according to some folks, 'playing well'. The bar is sooooooo low right now.

I'm not able to watch today but sounds (and looks from Chuba's stats) like Bryce/passing wasn't even really needed, and yet here the team is. Does he not trust anyone on the offense?

Yup, it's definitely the refs that are the problem with this Carolina team.

I don't think anyone here thinks Jones is a quality QB, and he and Bryce are probably about the same level in terms of effectiveness though Jones has infinitely better physical tools. Jones had an outlier year that got him paid and has since returned to exactly what he was before that.

The realty is that Bryce's improvement puts him back about where he was last year, and even steps beyond that only gets into low-end starter territory. Feel good for him? Sure, I guess. Feel good for the team? Still not anywhere near good enough in the long run and need to see it continue week in and out for the rest of the season. At the end of the year, if the improvement continues and consistency is starting to show, then perhaps that is worth feeling good about.

Didn't look multiple places like he does without them. Many QBs benefit when they don't get tunnel vision.

Yup. Chuba has already shown enough to get re-signed before this season started. His continued improvement is just icing on the cake (and dollars on the cap).

Bryce vs the Chiefs defense... yeah, not gonna happen.

Breaking

Holy crap, that is absolute highway robbery. It's the Dollar Store version of how lopsided the Burns trade was, but this time Carolina took the deal.

I don't even have a real opinion one way or another here but if NO intercepts that ball, perhaps your comment applies as well. Point being that an unimpressed take on a game won by the margins is just as valid.

Would've liked to see it on the outside shoulder where the defender isn't, particularly given the room that Legette had between him and the sideline, but while that's a bit of nitpicking it would have precluded this outcome. Also nitpicking in that he could have settled his feet and didn't have to keep moving, but even with those it was a quality throw and the DB made a great play.