Carolina Cajun

It's still no doubt about who we should have taken, and we got the right choice. I do believe that JJ is overhyped, but he is also not bad and the best DE in the game IMO. I think of it this way, if you had to compare a position on defense to the QB poisition, it would not be the DE, it would be the MLB, and frankly we have the best MLB in the game. The DE is more comparable to the Running back, a really good one can carry you a long way, but still without the solid MLB, the stats won't be on his side for a team effort. Think about what Adrian Peterson did a few years ago, he literally was the pinnacle of how far a RB could carry a team, and it was the first round of the playoffs, conversly, a QB can single handedly bring you to a superbowl. While Watt was the best DE in the game last year, the Texans still finished 16th in yards per game, and 11th in points per game. Now think back to the panthers in the few years when Beason kept getting injured and we had random players playing MLB, then compare it to Luke playing, we went from a mediocre at best defense to one of the best in the NFL, and should he get injured we would be in a bad situation. TL/DR:We got it right, give me Cam over any DE any day and twice on Tuesdays.

"was"...wait no, you had it right.

I got excited, then you and I became enemies...

Santana Moss is still in the NFL?

Hard to choose 1. I loved getting to actually be in stadium for 2 wins last year (Including the Zona playoff game) after living in Louisiana my whole life, but the one that always just sticks out (aside from the obvious ones, Xclown, Cowboys, ect) is week 1 2008 when we scored with no time left to beat the Chargers. For those who don't remember, Jake was coming off the infamous Tommy Jone surgery (his first game back), and Smitty was suspended due to breaking a defensive backs face. So with the question marks we had going into the game, a win wasn't some sort of sure thing, but this jump started one of the best seasons in franchise history (unfortunately punctuated by one of the biggest dissapointments in franchise history.) http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d80a9b15b/WK-1-Can-t-Miss-Play-Delhomme-s-game-winner

An independent investigation has stated that while a rape may not have occured, something shady happened. Just like Hardy may not have beat Nichole Holder, something not really legal did happen that night. Ragardless, I don't remember the times in college that I was accused of raping somebody then jumping on a table and yelling "Fug her right in the Pussy. If you want him as the face of the franchise, be prepared for the franchise to get run into the ground because he's flat out not mature enough to hold the most demanding position in sports.

I must have missed the day I had in college where I stole from a grocery store or raped a woman...but I guess my college life was boring.

So...let me get this straight. We're gonna do a comparative analysis and tell me if the 2 situations seem different Jameis was accused of raping a person and while found innocent, is still in a civil court case against the accuser and people who have investigated the case have found that while a rape may not have happened, something pretty shady did in fact happen. While most people would use this moment to get out of the public eye after being accused of THE WORST CRIME SHORT OF MURDER A MAN CAN DO, he went on to get blasted for stealing from a publix and constantly in the news for things not associated with quarterbacking the Seminoles Brandon Wegher got into a fight with his brother, and while clearly over the edge for domestic violence, me and my brothers have caused more than one set of stitches by fighting and no one has been charged in domestic abuse. Jameis is the #1 overall draft pick, playing the most visible position in all of sports, and the day he was drafted became the undisputed face of an NFL franchise. Brandon Wegher is an UDFA who will have to fight to make the practice squad, let alone the final 53 (even though I think he's a great back). On top of this, if you asked 100 random panther fans out at a bar (not huddlers, just panther fans) maybe 1 would even have a clue who this guy was, let alone that he was even signed to the team. As for Jameis, he is a supremely talented player, and AT ANY OTHER POSITION I would easily take a flyer on him, but the problem is, he is the one driving the bus. Imagine for a second you have Dale Earnhardt Jr driving your bus, but only when he's hopped up on painkillers. At his best, it's an amazing smooth ride that gets to it's destination fast. At it's worst you get in a wreck and burn everyone on the bus alive.

If he has his head on straight, he's definitely the kind of guy that can help us from a talent standpoint, even better considering his age. I like Kurt Coleman a lot, but just like the competition at Tackle and receiver, I want as many bodies as possible there to choose the best fit from.

Collins makes a huge mistake here. Unless they are gonna start using 6 lineman at one time, this is a complete waste because he'll never see the field. Oh well.

Only situation I can see would be to prevent players from working demanding they sign with a certain team. If a guy is a high draft pick m, but only wants,to play for the patriots, he could refuse to sign with anyone and then get his first round money after the draft. I think the nfl is being too hard on this kid in this case, he should be allowed in the supplemental draft.

Hey roger goodell? Where were Ya on this one buddy? You sure we're quick to put these small market team players in their place with hardy and Peterson (right or wrong), but let Raype Macdonald play every Sunday. Where was your crack squad of NFL investigators with this situation, or because it could hurt a premiere brand in the NFL you turned the other way...

I'm so glad someone knew who JonTron was.

This was why I was wondering what the rules would be about "extending" him imediately. Lets say they tell him, we'll sign you, and immediately "extend you" for 1 year (so instead of a 3 year deal, it's now a 4 year deal), with a big signing bonus and guaranteed money tied to the 4th year, in essense giving him a bigger payday. If that is a possibility, then things get even more interesting because if I can think of this as a random joe schmo, I'm sure most GM's have thought about this too. With that said though, I admittingly don't know all the rules with the CBA so I don't know whether or not that would even be allowed.

We just signed Brandon Wegher to the same contract that he would get and he actually has a history of actual police run ins and domestic abuse. If we don't sign him, it won't be because of JR, it will be because he chose another team over us. Let's let this situation play out.

The risk is that if he is somehow involved he goes from being "La'El Collins" to "Carolina Panthers Lineman, La'El Collins". Not saying it's right, but whatever team would sign him would forever be associated with him.

Not possible, big cat would never let us draft someone with that many character concerns.

True, but I'm interested to see what cam does without having our tackles giving free runs at him. If, IF our tackles give him protection this year, I believe we could see his best performance.

I'm not so so sure about cotchery, I think He very well may lose his spot if bersin or hill even come close to him in the preseason. His starting role is gone and no reason to keep a guy on the roster who is blocking our youth and will be gone next year anyway.

Exactly what I thought, but like you, I'm not sure about the rules

Considering the bust rate in the NFL lately for first Round OT's, guaranteed contract is important.

Here is my question. Let's say he's signed as a UDFA, is it possible to sign him then immediately "extend" him for 2 years for his contact length to be 5 years to give him a some semblance of a real first round contract?

I completely agree. The vitriol towards him started because he "blocked" the greatest practice squader in NFL history in Stephan Hill, then the punt returns came and he failed at that, but who didn't see it coming from a possession receiver asked to return freaking punts. I don't think he will make the team, but I sure as heck am not pulling against him. Hope if he doesn't make it here, he catches on somewhere.