45catfan

Alright!!! So we are actually capable of 3 and outs!

Let's get them from marching right back down the field. We've GOT to put up some resistance between the 20's.

Tepper for sure is a horrible football owner, but I'm going to give Fitterer one more offseason to prove himself. This is his first year without Rhule and since Rome wasn't built in a day, I'll afford him one more swing at this. If this team is still basement dwelling next season, it will be time for Scott to pack up his things and leave. Yes, even a mid-season dismissal if it's going that bad.

We suck at drafting WRs, especially of late. We look at potential over production. Outside of QB, I think WR is the most stat driven position in football where the proof is in the pudding. When we continue to draft guys with "upside," "intangibles," and "athletic traits" over dudes with proven production and gaudy stat lines, then this is EXACTLY what you get.

Not even remotely a piece or two away for our team. If you can get two starters for the price of one, you do it. Franchise players are the exception to the rule and Burns is not a franchise player. He's really good, but not the cornerstone of this team.

Informal poll: Should we have let Bryce "rest" his ankle an additional week versus one of the most winnable games left on the schedule today versus the Vikings and have rolled with Dalton to get that goose egg out of the win column?

I knew when the team was saying TMJ was the #2 we were screwed. Dude is a bust, period. Not every draft pick can be salvaged when they obviously don't meet expectations. AT was going to provide some plays from the slot, but his days of taking over games are, well...over. That left a rookie as the #1, one of which I was not high on. Mingo was not one the WRs I wanted to draft.

The Saints are doing just fine with Carr and probably would be undefeated if he didn't get injured. We should have kept our #1 or traded back for picks and got a WR or two, TE and RB. Remember we originally had another 2nd for CMC. That all could have been knocked out before the 4th round! All those guys could have gotten their feet wet this year and been ready to roll when we took either Williams, Maye, Penix Jr., Ward, Nix, Travis or Sanders. That's even before you get to Hartman, Van Dyke, Daniels, Leonard, Jefferson, Gabriel and Reed. Whew, my fingers are tired from typing all those options.

Impatience. More so on the owner's side than even the fan base I would think. Trying to force something to happen can make a bad situation worse in some instances

This is why I wanted to wait until next draft for the QB. The cabinets were nearly bare on the offensive side of the ball except the OL. Why bring a rookie QB into that situation? We should have built the supporting cast this year and then dropped in the rookie QB.

He's really good, but not elite. He wants to get paid like the later. We suck too bad to start paying guys like we are a player away. Let a team who IS a player away at edge pay him what thinks he deserves.

Burns for a 1st in 2024 and a second in 2025 plus a WR who is a legit #2. We recoup our draft picks for Bryce and go from there. TMJ is a bust. He's supposed to be our #2, but he's not even a #3. Next draft we snag the best WR and edge in the first two rounds at our pick. Then we have Bryce, Mingo, drafted WR, traded WR. On defense we lock up Brown, rookie edge and a new corner on the boundary to put D-Jax in the slot. That's even before I talk about FA. This sh*t isn't that hard.

That would be Brown who we pay. It's finally clicked with him. LBs are a dime a dozen. In today's NFL on defense, you invest in your line and corners. Kids are more athletic and faster now, so finding an edge/3-4 OLB in the draft is easier than it used to be. If they can play the run too? BONUS!

Yup. Above market on average dude over a crippling contract. Maybe first or a second rounder, but yes, draft a guy. Same principle of why we drafted a rookie QB; cheap contract and hopefully they can be developed.

My point being Burns is produces in spurts. He'll go off in one half of one game and then disappear for a while. Good on the Panthers for telling Burns' agent he ain't getting top of the market value.

Rotational. Haynes has been extended twice before. YGM isn't going anywhere. They are depth this year, they can be depth next. We can draft a guy of go the FA route. What I feel we can't do is be married to a Burns mega-deal.

YGM and Haynes would be tough to re-sign?

Burns has been almost nonexistent since the opening quarter in Atlanta where he posted two sacks. The past couple of games: 6 tackles (3 solo and 3 assists) and one sack. Luvu has .5 less in sacks but 5 more tackles. His contract is nowhere near Burns, but producing comparably.

My point being that Burns should be shipped off if the package is right. He played yesterday and we got 37 points put on us. Yes, we are banged up defensively, but if that man wants to get paid top 5 pass rusher money, dude needs to be a force every game, every down--not just showing up periodically.

This is a rebuilding year. Hoard as much capital as possible (cap space and draft picks). We aren't making the playoffs this year. The difference in a 4,5, or 6 win total is meaningless in year 1 with a new coaching staff starting a rookie QB. Not to mention we are already banged up severely which hampers our competitiveness. This team is going nowhere this season. Get what we can to springboard us into 2024.

Yeah, among the slew of problems yesterday, QB play wasn't one of them. Hell, if the defense could have forced just a couple of punts and the offense cut it's pre-snap penalties in half, we win that ballgame.

We trade Burns, period. Too much money to tie up in one player that's not your franchise QB for a team with too many holes to fill going forward. We could use the draft capital as well.

Not in the first round. Next year's QB draft is so deep we'd be foolish not to take a flyer pick in the mid rounds. Dalton isn't going to be here forever and if Bryce does or doesn't work out it would be nice to have a developing guy as the eventual #2.

Yup, but it's hard to not start the #1 overall pick. Would I have started Bryce? Nope, rookies, especially QBs struggle mightily. I would have rather have caught flack from the media and some fans by starting Dalton than staring 0-3 in the face. Now we have Bryce banged up, probably a bit shaken in his confidence, a pissed off fan base and crappy record to show for it.

Is this the case at QB as well? Projection aside, as of now, Dalton is our best QB and it ain't even close.