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Statistically, I'm pretty sure without looking that Trubisky's stats look more impressive from college... but it was the eye test. To me, when a play needed to be made, more often than not Marquise made it. You could see his leadership and I trusted his decision-making when it mattered. With Mitch, those aspects were always red flags for me and it was why I never believed in him. The stats to me looked labored and manufactured - more a result of the system than a guy who is a processing prodigy. When we needed a big throw or a smart play, it seems like he would always fold in those circumstances, so I just never believed the hype. I always thought the stats were fairly empty... his pro career seems to bear that out.

Been saying it since college. As a Heel alum, I have a reason to root for my guys, but I just never saw whatever the scouts apparently saw in Trubisky. I still maintain, Marquise Williams was leaps and bounds better than Trubisky as a QB, and he didn't even crack a 53 man in the NFL. The fact Trubisky somehow fooled the entire NFL into believing he should be the top QB selected in a draft, no matter the year, is absolutely astonishing. He owes his agent a TON of money.

From watching a lot of Baker in college and with the Browns, I was convinced that he could be the answer and that years like 2021 were an aberration, not the norm. Through 3 games so far, I'm actually starting to believe the inverse... 2020 was likely the aberration. Don't get me wrong, the coaching here has and will make any QB that comes through here look 1000x worse than they actually are, and that will continue until Rhule is gone... but even that considered, I just no longer think Baker is going to be who we hoped he would be. I have seen enough. And idc, if Lamar becomes a FA he is 100% worth whatever he wants... but the Ravens would be absolutely stupid to not franchise him, so that won't happen. Weirdly enough though, I think he would net less value in a trade than Watson did. So, if he becomes available, if we threw what we did at Watson, I don't see how we wouldn't be all in on Lamar.

Idgaf. Throw everything and the kitchen sink at Lamar. fug the Ravens. I dint understand st all wtf they're trying to accomplish? You take Lamar off that team and they might, MIGHT eek out 7 wins, and that's only because Huntley is possibly the best backup in the league.

Idk, I guess I have just gotten used to getting the misery out of the way early so you can move onto coping quicker. Creatures of habit, and all that...

Glad you're doing well now, buddy. Continued health!

I stand slightly corrected. Peon knows his poo... see below. I think I'll edit that first post, too, to avoid spreading any misinformation.

Wow... I'm an idiot. Typed stroke and completely disregarded clots are the cause of stroke lol. I just remembered reading that although it can be dangerous, that it seemed it was often treated conservatively and a lot of people just lived with it, and I was a bit shocked by that. Thank you for the very informative post!

(edited out misinformation) ...but when I read up on it some time back, I was actually surprised with how conservatively it is often treated.

I was just thinking... we may have gotten bumped because of Dallas/WSH?

Same. I said it in the other thread yesterday, I believe, but this has all the makings of a loss for us. Huge streak/established pattern on the line, existing possible vendetta/revenge between Kingsbury v Rhule and Baker, etc., typically, when those things are in place and well-established, we lose. Oh, and the coaching staff still sucks.

Also, I read yall talking about the 4pm games and automatically assumed you meant next week... God, I hate 4 pm games. This sucks.

The endzones/field are absolutely beautiful for Sam... wish we had a better staff/team to do them justice today.

I remember a friend and I went for $5 each in the 06-07 season, I believe. We played Minnesota when KG was still there. You could've heard a fart in the upper deck from the floor level it was so empty. My friend and I attempted to move down into the lower bowl, figuring we would be doing them a favor by doing our part and making the arena look fuller... and for the first, last, and only time in my life of attending games, the ushers sat at the tunnels at each section and literally stopped us and told us to go back to our seats. I was in complete disbelief. It also greatly changed my opinion of Robert Johnson. I was legit pissed... been to a good amount of games in my life across various sports and never once experienced that before or since - generally, if the arena/stadium is empty, especially the lower area, you can move down. It was the craziest thing I ever experienced and again, made me see Robert Johnson as a money hungry asshole. And this was also back during the C-Set network disaster where it was the only place you could get games but no region outside of Charlotte had it, I believe. So on top of that fiasco, you treat the fans that actually buy tickets like poo when they come to the arena. Anyway, my friend ended up getting drunk and yelling, "Knibb High Football rules!!!" for the rest of the game.

Just when I was going to ask if it's time to ponder whether Little was a victim of Fhule's Favorites because he has played a solid game and has been starting for the Phins... he gets bullrushed into the abyss.

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at with him. But it's pretty sobering when acknowledging that's how we feel about him now, and yet, over the last three years they've brought in a QB that performs even worse than he did in year one under Rhule (not counting Cam). Man, it's been quite the slow, painful fall...

Not fully releasing Teddy of responsibility there, but I think it's pretty obvious now, that wasn't a Teddy stat... I think the last three years prove that is a Rhule stat. We just didn't know it then.

Teddy is not bad. I infamously said he "sucked" here, but again, that was relative, not a permanent state. And I always liked him before he came here (excluding the Saints years obviously), going back to college. He's a good guy snd a solid QB. But I think a lot of our frustration with him was rooted in the team dumping Cam for him, the realization that the offense Rhule was trying to implement was not sexy, fun, or entertaining to watch and eventually would devolve into the current teainwreck we see now, and the fact that he was just so antithetical to what we had with Cam. It was a bad spot to be in. And obviously, had we known it was just going to get worse, I think most would've elected to just ride it out with Teddy until Rhule was fired anyway.

Oh no, I'm a diehard boxing fan and have bern since i as a kid, and have also gotten fairly heavy into MMA. I've seen guys get knocked out and immediately go rigid, I've seen the guys get KO'd and then start throwing their combos as they're lying on their back that they planned to throw before the lights went out, I've seen guys get KO'd and start fighting the refs lol... but that one just looked different... especially for football. But I will say, outside of the obvious worse-case scenario injuries in football, like Byrd, Reggie Brown, Shazier, etc., the worst concussion I ever remember seeing was as a kid when Dwight Stone was a gunner on ST for us and he got popped and the camera flashed to him and he repeatedly got up and fell back down, but no one came to help... he just kept falling over, and of course, this was in the 90s, so they said something like they had to see what was going on, glossed over it, went to a commercial break and never addressed it again. I think the team did later list him with a concussion but he was back out there in a qeek or two, IIRC... but it just looked scary with no one even coming to help him. It was similar but a little worse than that Daniel Jones concussion against the Cowboys last season.

I wanted my sons to play, but my wife has been really against it... but the more time that has gone on, I haven't fought her on it, and I guess there's a reason for that, and it has and always will be my favorite sport even though I excelled more at basketball... I'm guessing I'll leave it to my sons to decide if they want to play when they get to high school, but again, I'm not pushing it. And about Luke, I'll never forget watching that on TV live and it was definitely one of those moments that made you question how long the sport can last as-is and if its actually sustainable. It truly is a gladiator sport, with long-term implications for those who play it. And then I remember reading here after he retired that someone who knew someone in the org said the reason he was crying was because he temporarily went blind on the field. That is some of the scariest poo imaginable.

And I'm not a doctor. But had read up on this before... and this would be my guess as to what happened: Spinal cord concussion is a transient disturbance of spinal cord function, with or without vertebral damage and no demonstrable pathologic changes, that results from a rapid change in velocity following trauma, and resolves within 48 hours.

I didnt think I was alone in saying in 28 years of playing and watching football that I never saw someone seize up like that as quick as he did, for as long as he did, and Tony Gonzalez just said the same thing... scary stuff. I really hope he's able to fully recover.

They'll likely still slide on it because they added the back and ankle to the injury report, so they'll just say it was because of those issues. TBH, it wouldn't surprise me if the league had a say in him going back in there last week... if anything the last 10 years has taught us is the NFL loves storylines, it's what drives their product. And having a winner in Miami, especially so soon after the Ross-> Flores -> McDaniel controversy so they can conveniently sweep the dirt under the rug (in typical NFL fashion) very much depended on Tua for them to compete in such a huge game against league-favorites in Buffalo. So wouldn't surprise me at all if they were willing to turn a blind eye to the initial concussion to keep that storyline going... also, having a great franchise in a major market like Miami is always a plus for the league. So yeah, a lot of people had a lot of reasons to put him back in there, and none of them had anything to do with the well-being of Tua. fuging scumbags.

They gonna pretend this is a back injury too?!?! Yet another reason to hate the NFL. Didn't we get fined or something a few years back for supposedly how we handled the protocol with Cam and putting him back in a game? And yet, Tua clearly was concussed last week and they let it slide with a "oh, it was his back". fuging hypocrites, constantly moving the goalposts for who and what they want. And now, look at him. He still hasn't moved AT ALL. And usually, even in boxing, someone may seize up for an instant immediately following the knock out, but they generally recover within seconds. He was still laying there with his hands locked up well after a time you would generally see someone recover. fuging NFL man. And again, he still hasn't moved.

It may have been, and perhaps I wasn't able to engage the context fully because of background noise, but to me it seemed like the intonation was getting at a "y'all got that from him" as in "how do y'all keep taking what he's saying serious?" It may very well have been more in line with how you took it, but to me, it seems like there is a lot under the surface of what DJ is saying here. But, i agree, it is dumb and a waste of time and resources for "professional" journalists to constantly play a game of telephone between players and coaches to see what sensational headlines they can get.