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I'm currently delighted we didn't get Adam Peters if he had any part in this trade.

You want to give up future first round picks for the 4th best QB (in theory) in the Draft? Just have to let it ride at this point - continue rebuilding the roster.

Because they think a guy that obliterated the SEC on his way to a National Title is a good player?

Same, but for Fields. To me it's Wilson / Lawrence - big gap - Fields / Jones - gap - Lance (dude is all potential) - Mond - everyone else.

We don't know how much the Bills have paid him (or at least I can't see with a quick Google search). We'd have had to pay him a minimum of $2,133,000 if we'd tendered him. As we didn't think Kerr was worth $1.6m I can understand why they'd have balked at paying Obada more.

Most credible evaluators have Jones as the #3 QB in the Draft.

Where has this this 'top 4 QB' phrase come from? People throw it around like it's a fact. It really baffles me.

That's oddly specific. You ok, bud?

Isn't be meant to be a bit of a nutter? Pulling a knife on a teammate, hazing Freshmen with his dong etc?

They both report to Tepper.

Dude has over 8k receiving yards and 82TDs. I mean he's been pretty good in the NFL.

Just for shits and giggles (in order of brilliance): Tony Romo - 5.01 Matthew Stafford - 4.81 Matt Ryan - 4.89 Philip Rivers - 5.08 Ben Roethlisberger - 4.75 Drew Brees - 4.83 Peyton Manning - 4.88 Patrick Mahomes - 4.8 Tom Brady - 5.28

So you're a pretty content Panthers fan then 'cos that's pretty much what we've achieved as a franchise so far. No thanks. I'd like to be a consistent winner.

I honestly don't think it's as simple as Lawrence > Wilson > Fields > Lance > Jones (several well respected QB evaluators have Lawrence and Wilson as a clear 1-2 with Jones as the third guy). I'm also not sure about the resources involved either - some think Lance will fall significantly. A lot of posters have entrenched themselves with their opinion on these QB prospects and every debate just descends into the same old tired arguments.

What was said yesterday?

Delhomme was literally the king of rainbow deep throws. That's not an indication of arm strength at all.

No mention of Rhule - the shaaaaaaaade.

It's a little bit pathetic at this point.

At the end of the day they spent a week with him in Mobile - and didn't push him to play in the game with a niggling foot injury. They'll know all they need to about him at this point - and as Rhule has discussed, getting to know the guys is half the evaluation battle (something he's missed with the Combine being cancelled). We'll see how it plays out, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's our guy.

I'll still take the 2001 Canes. McGahee, Portis, Gore, Johnson, Winslow and Shockey. Two certain HoFers.

Their floor is one of the hottest QB commodities in the NFL and a guy that's taken the Browns to their first Playoffs in forever? I mean, c'mon son.

Damn, son. I've defended Bridgewater all year because I don't think he's as bad as many make out, but when Clark Kent savages you like that it's time to get in your mini-van and hit the road.

I'd be less scared to go for it if we had an NFL roster to back up said rookie QB. Sadly Rivera and Hurney left us in a mess. We need all the Draft picks we can get at the moment.

I'm in the minority here, but I didn't want Newton with the #1 overall pick. After we selected him I thought we should have gone all in on the Auburn offence that he was so successful in. Granted he'd be retired now, but he'd probably have a Super Bowl ring.

Exactly. Allen is the outlier - a QB that's gone away and significantly improved his mechanics. At such a technical position like QB, where you don't have time to think about your mechanics (because you're trying not to think about the 300lb man trying to rip your head off as you process the defence), it's very difficult to rework what at 21/22 is now very natural to you. To be fair to Lance, he has such limited experience as a QB that potentially his mechanics aren't ingrained yet, so you could stash him for a year away from said 300lb killers and rework what you need to.