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He 100% did. He mentioned multiple times how they needed more from the qb play and they couldnt win with play like that.

This was Cam's last shot. There is a reason he was sitting at home eating cereal as he said a few weeks ago.

Yes. I believe everyone constantly called Darnold out on his mistakes. Lol

A zone read run play was called with the option to run that screen and Cam switched to that option. That explains why him and Rhule got into it a little bit on the sidelines after. https://twitter.com/scott_fowler/status/1472685315487850500?s=20

Anyone who says yes is basing it off his past. Not his present or future. To what end would they do that? Hes not our qb of the future with his slowing down and major injury history. He is a stop gap as much as it pains some people to admit it. It's crazy to bring in a new offensive coordinator and system for a stop gap qb.

Yea I thought it had 2 requirements out of the pocket (yes) and past the Los (definitely not).

They have a terrible offensive line and the defensive line is bad against the run. The roster has plenty of holes that will stop you from being consistently good.

That was 6 years ago. Hes not that player and hasnt been in years. He could have been great at that time and not good now. Time and health catches up with everyone. You cant blindly defend a player now because they were great 6 years ago... thanks for giving the literal perfect response to what I said.

There just appears to be a lot of hypocrisy since Cam got here and its frustrating. I have to clarify I dont think Darnold is the answer either but the arguments and views for who's at fault and why have totally changed since Cam got here. Every qb we have played this season hasnt looked like the answer. There are plenty of roster and coaching decisions that shoulder that blame but no qb has looked like the answer either. That includes Sam, that includes Cam. If you say the same thing about Cam when he does it that was said about Sam when he did it you're just a Cam hater or an f150 and that's bs.

So that starts now or is that for all season?

I'm not sure we have anyone on the roster right now who can save the day. Thats a whole lot of dead weight to carry.

Yea I think he will for sure get in before the season is over. Even if it's just situational.

He just doesnt always have the zip he used to. Hes always struggled a bit with throwing preemptively or with great timing he could just make up for it by always throwing lazers. He cant do that as much now so a lot of the times its just a tick or two late.

Half of the posts on this thread are people blaming someone else every time Cam makes a bad throw or read.

First off hes no worse than cam now. They are basically equal. Second off I bet you 100% he touches the field again. Most likely this season. Even if hes not a very good qb. Look at what we've got.

It's like everything else since Cam got here. They are no longer the qbs fault. It's the coach's fault, or the wide receivers fault, maybe the grounds man that takes care of the turf.

He led him by a yard too far...

Exactly. It just irritates me that now that Cam is back everyone that argued opposite beforehand are jumping on the bandwagon of what I've said since the season started. There are all kinds of problems with the franchise currently. It's hard to judge anyone individually. Any qb out there is at least set up to fail. That wasnt how a lot of people felt until recently it seems. I still feel the same.

Hes not my boy. I have no idea if hes HC material or not but I dont think anyone does when you have an almost entire roster churn and all rookie coaches in a season and a half time. Theyve definitely made mistakes. That's how you get experience. The question is what do you do with your mistakes.

Remember how before Cam got here so many people were saying our oline was bad but not as bad as when Cam was here? The tone seems to have changed again.

I think one more for sure. That's not nesscesarily because I believe in Rhule. I have no idea. It is a completely different roster than when he got here 2 years ago. There is hardly any experience on the roster and no experience in the coaching staff. It takes time to completely turn around a team from scratch.

Sure, but I would imagine most players didn't risk lying about it. Aaron Rodgers is just Aaron Rodgers.

He was clearly vaccinated. They had all those rules about having to wear a mask when talking to media if unvaccinated for a while at least. I'm not sure if they still do or not.

Which move besides Gilmore was a move for a short term return?

Always gotta have a scapegoat to single out. First it was Darnold, then we got Cam. It cant be Cam because hes Cam so now its Rhule. When the truth is there is plenty of blame to go around and pre 3-0 start this was still a rebuilding roster.