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At least he's learning.

The elephant in the room is this is the Panthers we're talking about. Who knows when we're going to be truly competitive again and for how long anyways. And at the end of the day you still need that guy behind center. Teams that traded for Khalil Mack thought they hit the big time. Haven't accomplished anything.

Parsons to Peppers comparison is an interesting one. Julius played 17 seasons though. I have a hard time seeing anywhere near the same for the newer generations of players. So many variables and distractions now. Aaron Donald only played 10 seasons. Von Miller is only in his 13th season but he's gotta be as close as he can be to done at this point. It's just a different league now.

Parsons is 26 Derrick Brown is 27. Neither of them are that young. But they are both in their prime no doubt. If we didn't pass on him and Parsons were already here we could be having a different conversation or we could be having the same conversation as the Cowboys. It's all speculation. But we had our chance if we wanted him.

The cap can certainly be worked around but we aren't exactly a representation of a franchise that has successfully accomplished this. Still no back to back winning seasons nearing a decade without a winning record. It is what it is.

That's where things get murky. What's he asking? I mean we're entering waters where now second round rookies are getting fully guaranteed contracts. He wants a deal that will dwarf recent top defender contracts. Is he worth it? I can't say. He's certainly talented. But we are not one piece away and that's a one piece away move. We are still waiting to see Bryce have his breakout season in year 3. Let's be realistic.

David Tepper is a meddler until proven otherwise. We're still waiting to see if he's truly evolved. Until then while he isn't Jerry Richardson he isn't necessarily better by comparison either.

If he's miserable in Dallas I do not envision him living his best life here under the Tepper's. Just the truth.

It's practice but the issue is we've seen it in live games. Plus that ball traveled through the air for an eternity. Which we've also seen.

Trading a productive locker room leader who wants to be here for a guy who is currently a malcontent in Dallas sounds like a recipe for a shitshow I agree.

I edited the post to add more info about the most recent history of the two firsts trade package. https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2023/3/6/23627251/3-recent-nfl-trades-including-two-first-round-draft-picks-khalil-mack-trade-tunsil-trade-watson Honestly with how teams are gearing so heavily with analytics I have a hard time believing a team will actually cave to those demands this go around.

I don't think the two firsts is going to go down. We've seen teams posture with that demand but when is the last time it actually happened? Watson Tunsil Mack In that order. The Watson package alone is enough to put an end to these wild trades. But the other two certainly don't help either.

It's practice but we definitely need to see Bryce work on underthrowing those back of the end zone passes. These are issues opposing defenses already know about it's on film.

The first sentence of that second tweet.....

Hey man if you're skeptical I can respect that. But Armanti Edwards? Cmon... That's a low blow. Let's at least be rational here and see how he looks in preseason.

It's definitely one of the better and more memorable catches. But the "best" IMO is undisputed because it has yet to be topped.

Madden ratings are a popularity contest anyways.

We started out last season with two of the ugliest lopsided losses in franchise history after holding out our starters for most of preseason. And before that in camp our defense actually looked halfway formidable against our offense. That same defense ended up being one of the worst ever. Skepticism is justified until we see some good results early in the season whether folks like it or not. That comes with the territory of not having a winning season in going on 8 years now.

I still remember this game. I was so excited for our new WR. Could have been another Mike Evans. Sometimes guys just never fulfill their potential for a number of reasons. Sad but it's life.

He's certainly no David Gettis

Getting chippy out there. I like the energy and swagger from the offense. I expect the defense to return the favor. I also very much like Canales response to the "showboating" question. Right now just let them cook. We need this attitude.

It is also fair to point out that the Panthers have taken a swing on two players discarded from the Jaguars in recent years and both were misses. Maybe we should just stop trying to find diamonds in the worst places and leave that in the Fitterer years.

I would be interested in Lloyd but I don't think we have to part with Coker and I do not want to either way given our depth in the past and also our struggles with getting real talented receivers with promise. Regardless. We couldn't resolve everything in a single offseason and I don't think we are in a "one move away" mindset. And we shouldn't be anyways as it has only bitten us in the ass time and time again in the past. I'm fine just letting things play out naturally as this is a development year anyways.

I wouldn't read much into it regardless. We've already seen Dalton in real action beyond one or two starts. And it was the complete opposite of good. My advice for anyone through camp and preseason is not to get too high or too low over what you see and hear. I'm not buying or selling anything until I see how this team performs the first two games of the season. From there we'll form a picture.