frankw

Well the Steve Clifford reunion is still going splendidly I see.

Geez ol' Pete got to thinking Geno Smith was going to pull a Nick Foles and go on a fairy tale postseason run. I can see why they said thanks no thanks.

What's with the Monken hype? He's almost 60 and he has had Lamar Jackson to work with. Ben Johnson Frank Smith Bobby Slowik and even Canales should be the only names to bother with.

I wouldn't be upset if we didn't hire Vrabel because there are other options I feel good about. But this team hasn't been to the playoffs in going on 7 years and we are currently the worst in the league by a significant margin. This franchise doesn't have a history of being a perennial contender either. Can't really keep a straight face and talk poo about Vrabel. If your argument is we can do better alright fair enough. If your argument is he is Ron Rivera I'm calling shenanigans. Ron was on the hot seat in year 2 for being a conservative dinosaur with Cam Newton who then proceeded to save his ass. Ryan Tannehill is the best QB Vrabel has had. If we're going to make comparisons let's at least be fair about it. In the end I'd be fine with rolling the dice on Slowik or just hiring Evero or MacDonald from the Ravens.

Interviewing today apparently.

Need to at minimum make a legit run at Mike Vrabel. Can't let that opportunity pass.

I won't argue those last few years. But can't scoff at a two time Super Bowl champion and both against a despised modern dynasty. The Seahawks won theirs against one of the worst performing Super Bowl teams I've ever seen. Either way by the time Pete got this team in good shape he'd be pushing 75. Again. Pointless.

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This would be like hiring Tom Coughlin after he was done with the Giants. Even if you get him to somehow agree it's a waste of time. He's a dinosaur now.

Who you telling. Back well before the trade to 1 was made it was more of a pipe dream scenario so it wasn't discussed too much at length. Most thought we would move to top 5. But in any possible scenario of moving to 1 it was overwhelmingly preconceived here we would select Stroud. His tape told the tale. Somehow we ignored that entirely. Just unforgivable incompetence.

Excuse me?

Cart before the horse because why not. All I can say at this point is I hope Tepper finally gets lucky and makes the right hire. It's a longshot but it's all I've got.

Left the NFL with the gift of Bryce Young and said peace.

Quinn might be one of those guys just better suited to be a coordinator. If we can't get Vrabel and are going defensive head coach I'd rather give Mike Macdonald with the Ravens a shot.

Pay him whatever he wants.

What is this in reference to?

I was clearly referring to your dig about him being a "true #1" before he's played a snap in the NFL while still arguing Moore isn't a 1 despite multiple seasons of high level play with mediocre QB's and now finishing the season 6th in receiving yards in Chicago of all places. Your ego is ridiculous my friend.

Agree on everything but DB I could not disagree more. He is going to be a much needed part of our defense and will bring heart and leadership to a locker room that has quite a few players that are just here cashing checks.

Definitely give Vrabel an interview.

You are hopelessly and hilariously dug into your position. Keep going. It's entertaining.

That's true but I would argue Beane is more of an outlier. As far as Morgan removing the emotional attachment revolving around his history as a Panthers player all we have to go on is his involvement here and Buffalo. If we are to go the glass half full approach we would say his time with the Bills says we should take a shot on him because he was involved at some level in some very solid roster building. On the flip side we said the same thing about Fitterer when we snagged him from Seattle. It's a crapshoot.

We may not agree much. But good to see you are still around.

Sounds eerily familiar like what we said about Fitterer after Rhule was fired. Clean house.

Are you @WOW!!? Everything makes sense now.