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Right but I'm not talking about other teams I'm talking about the Carolina Panthers who are heading into 8 consecutive years of losing seasons. We can argue about stats advanced metrics and expectations until we're blue in the face. Winning when the playoffs are on the line is a very key goal for any starting QB in the NFL. And not for nothing but let's keep it real here. We hung our hats on the Packers game in his rookie season after weeks of either poor or mediocre QB play. And now we're doing the same with his sophomore season albeit with a little larger sample size. But still picking and choosing what to judge just leads to an echo chamber on either side of the debate. We should all be able to meet at a consensus that competing passing the eye test and winning some games convincingly early in the season is realistically the goal for our #1 pick heading into year 3.

On one hand I would have liked to retain him because he still has value in a rotation and veteran expertise. On the other hand we've invested a very significant amount of resources in our new youth movement and we need to get them development. And at the end of the day despite Clowney being a local story as much as he is liked around these parts the reality is as an NFL talent he has bounced around the league a lot and there is a reason for that. Good luck to him.

Well that's the problem. That portion of games was when our playoff hopes were either teetering on the edge at best or we were eliminated altogether. We need to see Bryce Young perform like that when the pressure is on. That is what defines a franchise QB.

Obliterating one another over data that can be skewed one way or another to fit a narrative is a long dead beaten horse here on the huddle. It still boils down to the eye test and a larger sample size for me. If we get that over the course of the bulk of next season then we've got something and things are looking up.

The only way the Hornets are getting the first pick is if the NBA rigs it for us.

The track record for this is downright comical. At this point when Pickens inevitably flames out in Dallas the next time the Steelers put a WR on the trade block teams across the league just need to ignore them and wait for the team to release him.

Unfortunately when the rubber meets the road and the bullets are flying we won't be able to spam these cherry picked charts at the opposing defenses we'll be facing this season. They've got the game tape folks. They know the tendencies. It's up to Bryce to rise above.

At the end of the day he's laughing all the way to the bank with generational wealth. Probably best to just put this in the past for good.

All of those but 1 came within a 6 game stretch at the end of the season and 2 were in the final game against Atlanta. I think it's premature for anyone to say it's going to be a long term possible part of his game. And just for the sake of clarity and realism let's remember at one point when Sam Darnold was a Panther fans here were hyping up his rushing ability and that whole narrative got shut down against the Falcons. And Sam Darnold is a good bit thicker than Bryce Young. Suffice to say while I want him to have some scrambling ability I don't want him to go out of his way to risk himself and at the end of the day if he's going to become a franchise QB it's going to be with his arm anyways. We'll see how it goes.

I am in favor of being extra cautious for the time being if need be given recent events. As for the source in question it does sound like the guy who wears socks with sandals could have worded things better. But hey we take what we can get with this local reporting squad until the franchise lifts itself out of joke status.

For better or worse I don't think that's ever going to be on the table. What game was it last year where we got ourselves into multiple 4th and 1 situations on the opponents side of the field and every single time Dave Canales opted to bring out Eddie Pinero who proceeded to miss wide? It's definitely something they are going to have to figure out.

Our redzone passing options on paper have improved significantly and we've also strengthened the run game. I would say the passing yardage overall isn't all that important it's more about seeing a viable passing offense and taking those deep shots to keep the defense honest like you say. What TMac brings to the offense especially with his catch radius is going to be a big jolt for this group.

That would put him top ten in touchdowns based on the QB numbers from last year. That would be impressive. The completion percentage is firmly in the 20-25 range of meh. I think as far as rushing that's a bit of an enigma. But we should probably go ahead and unblur the line between possibility and sheer hopium. I do not think any of us should want him running in the open field. Extending plays with his legs? Sure. Expecting him to have 5 rushing touchdowns? Idk how realistic that is. And all it's going to take is one big hit and bye bye that goes. It really boils down for me to putting touchdowns on the board. I'm willing to give him leeway in the statistical categories if he is leading us to consistent redzone scoring percentages. And with the offensive pieces we have around him now that should not be a problem.

No. This guy did. Did you see his mock draft? https://www.nfl.com/news/gennaro-filice-2025-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-rb-ashton-jeanty-goes-top-5-cowboys-jump-for-jalon-walker This man had Shedeur Sanders going 9th overall and us trading down to pick 12 to draft cornerback Jahdae Barron.

That's why when you have the chance to draft a C who could possibly hold down the position for the next decade in the second round you take that prospect and run. Instead we let him go to Pittsburgh.

I feel like it's impossible not to like and root for this guy. Seems like a fantastic teammate to have around too. Hopefully he and TMac will be having a good time motivating one another to up their respective game.

I believe this is the part where someone says "puff puff, pass".

Ah yes........let's denigrate one of only two long term starting QB's in the 30 year history of this franchise. That will certainly help us kickstart the end to this winning season drought now heading into year 8.

Newton in his prime had a howitzer for an arm and was built like a greek god. When you are that physically gifted things like footwork can be worked around more often. Still. If he had actually adequately addressed it he could have had a different career. And he's already someone who is IMO a hall of famer sooner or later. So what does that tell you about how important it is? We need to let Bryce Young stand on his own two feet as his own QB. We forfeited exorbitant resources to secure the rights to draft him under the pretense that we would not have to surround him with elite pieces across the board. That along with his much discussed improvisational skills were the key selling points from the media and our front office. I sincerely hope he and Canales are putting heavy emphasis on Bryce's footwork because defenses already know what's coming since that's all over the tape. We can't hide from it.

He's got the coach he's got the pieces and weapons around him. If it's going to happen it's now. I'm ready to see it. It's been long enough since we've been truly competitive.

I like Jaycee a lot and appreciate his leadership but to say he's above Ramsey right now is based on hopium let's be realistic. He's got a great deal to prove this season. I’m hoping to see that he firmly establishes himself amongst his peers.

Panthers.com says he actually wanted #11 initially. It's fine. It just seems like the league has maybe gone a bit too far in loosening up numbers for position groups. That's all some people are saying. But this was probably always inevitable anyways as they years go on. I'm just ready to see him get out there and pluck some passes out of the air.

At this point we have to keep him. I like the guy a great deal he's a very easy player to root for. I just need to see him take a few big and crucial steps forward in his development this season. I sincerely hope it happens.