frankw

Excuse me sir the Giants were also missing their starting rb and three wideouts but they blew the doors off us. The injury excuse isn't going to fly.

If you can come around maybe there is hope for others. I know @SBBlue is lurking. Might as well come get that crow you were so ready to serve it up to others just a few weeks ago. We're all stuck with this mess of mediocrity now

Welp back to our regularly scheduled programming.

If building a winning culture was the goal we've gone about it comically wrong. Six draft picks for Sam Darnold and three cornerbacks isn't doing anything to help that while our oline falls apart and we get blown out of the stadium by the Giants. It wasn't going to get significantly better in just one season yes but it should not have gone the other way. We are worse off than we were last year. That's mismanagement.

Everybody knows it's a qb driven league. I don't think they've given up but honestly the locker room can't be in a good place right now. If fans and random people on social media see the awful throws Sam is making into quadruple coverage and how he ends one game with a pick and starts the next with a pick I mean how does that not become a factor in morale when you know despite your best efforts one guy will poo the bed? But Rhule and Fit made this mess it's up to them to deal with the fallout

Even Jets fans finally got wise. Panthers fans love them some awful quarterbacks. Kyle Allen or Sam Darnold would have lifetime contracts if some of these delusional fans had their way.

Some Panthers fans basically celebrated the demise of Newton's career here. Tried to tell them what awaits... 433f6d84-eff8-477d-a8a6-6f5653c71360.mp4

Looks like we need a real NFL caliber offensive coordinator. But that will only help so much with the issues we are seeing now the team looks unmotivated and they couldn't even be bothered to put up a fight against a bad 1 win Giants team. I know we have no real option in the short term but it seems clear rn the team is and has lost confidence in the starting qb and it is only going to get worse as the season goes on.

The backstory is pretty cut and dry. He's just a bitter old fool who doesn't like new school quarterbacks who challenge norms.

I think we all can agree Joe Brady is in over his head and on the outside looking in. But as a fourth year pro you can't make that throw with four or five defenders around and expect to keep your job.

Still have to identify the right qb moving forward while navigating the 18 million we guaranteed to Darnold next year. You are correct there is no quick fix but if we have an opportunity to draft a replacement and move on from McCaffrey we will have to reluctantly consider this. Those cap hits the next couple of years only get worse and you can't ignore trends both him and Saquon have been banged up a lot and the Giants didn't even need him or their top three receivers to make quick work of us. As others have said it isnt the 80's anymore you need someone other than an rb to be your leader.

With what picks though? But even if this is the case if we draft another back we need to get out from under McCaffrey's contract and actually build an oline.

If you're bringing Saints trolls out from under rocks you're doing it wrong.

Why are you dying on a hill like this for the front office? Yes they have added some nice talent in different spots and they have gotten credit for that. But the disaster that has been this season was avoidable and it falls squarely on Rhule and Fitterer. Can you say you are not at all concerned about their ability to identify a good quarterback? Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold in consecutive seasons is....really bad.

Can't make an impact from the sideline. We love him but at some point you can't keep trying to deny reality.

Tom Brady fanboy Panthers fans are the worst.

These blame everyone but Sam Darnold threads aren't looking too great. Has anyone seen @Mr. Scot?

I could be wrong but I think earlier this year there was discussion about the front office and the gist of it was Rhule ultimately has final say. It would be interesting to know who pushed more for that contract. I think we can make a reasonable assumption.

I get what he's saying you should always have a degree of skepticism with things like this. But it's just information and we live in a time when said information moves at an instantaneous pace. We're all adults and can choose what we want to believe though.

After going 3-0 our defense has given up 433 yards to the Cowboys 571 yards to the Vikings and 302 yards to the Giants. They actually played well enough for us to win against the Eagles but beyond that game our defense has not been really good. Sad truth.

We just got held to 3 points and blown out by Daniel Jones and the Giants. There is rebuilding and then there is imploding.

You mean to tell me Panthers.com lied to us about the Carter hype?

Robby has made his own bed with his play which has been terrible but for clarification on this situation and the fact even DJ Moore hasn't looked so hot the last few weeks. This little nugget is also in the article and cannot be understated. "By DYAR, Sam Darnold has been the worst non-rookie passer in the league this year."

Taking too many bad shots. Ohwell