Eazy-E

What does that have to do with being able to complete passes down field? Is Bryce’s arm going to get stronger and more accurate the more games he plays?

Andy Dalton was able to do it on the road in the rain.

Yeah probably shouldn’t throw around stats when you don’t know the difference between yards per attempt and yards per completion. First thing I noticed when I read the OP.

No threat of passing down field so they just stack the box. They’re just begging Bryce to beat them.

Lmao let’s hear the excuses

Every time you here him say kill kill kill he’s changing the play. It’s happened a lot so far.

Yes he is. He’s checked out of almost every 3rd down play so far.

Bryce could have just as easily called a timeout there as Frank.

What a poo show

We’d have 21 on the board with Dalton at QB.

Why is Frank not in that officials face right now? If there was ever a time to call roughing that was textbook.

Sam Franklin redemption arch hahahahahaha

Dalton managed 360 yards behind our patch work O line with practically no run game, on the road, in the rain, with this WR group. A stud WR isn’t going to all of a sudden turn Bryce into an elite NFL QB. Fitt and co hedged their jobs on the trade up to draft Bryce and it’s backfired miserably so far and now they’re scrambling in panic mode.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Sanders ypc has dropped in each game and our offensive guard combo has been different each game. Cade Mays is an okay run blocker but is abysmal at pass blocking so he got benched. Throckmorton can at least keep the pocket from immediately collapsing but gets zero push in the run game. If Corbett comes back at 80-90% of what he was last season and Sanders still struggles then it will be worth revisiting this conversation.

Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Tepper want to do away with the Keep Pounding mantra? Wilks took over and basically made it his entire coaching personality. Never seemed like Wilks was much of a yes man and Tepper is always going to have the final say. He’s the owner and that’s his prerogative but we aren’t going to succeed until he takes a step back and accepts he doesn’t know a damn thing about football.

They chose him because he’s fuging stupid rich and cares more about money than football.

Saying the Texans have more talent on offense is such a fuging cop out. Tunsil is out today and CJ’s top target is an undersized 3rd round WR. Even if we still had DJ Moore nothing has shown me yet that Bryce would be balling like CJ has so far.

It seemed early on Frank and co were really high on Stroud and most of the media was thinking we were going that direction. When we got closer to the draft and after pro days, word got out that David and Nicole “fell in love with Bryce” and things started shifting toward Bryce being the pick. Coincidence, or more evidence of a meddling owner who doesn’t listen to the people around him that actually know football?

Would having a stud WR be nice? Yes of course. What it won’t change is Bryce’s accuracy throwing down field. He’s yet to connect on a deep throw so far even when our current receivers are open.

Sanders is an upgrade over Foreman. Hurst is an upgrade over Ian Thomas. TMJ went from WR2 down to 4. So besides losing DJ Moore we upgraded at every other position. Being this bad lands squarely on giving up / expecting to much from a rookie QB.

We weren’t the worst team in football last year and traded up to take a QB with the first overall pick. That QB has gone on to have an abysmal start to his career and the team on offense looks worse than it did at any point last season. Normally you make a trade like that if you feel like the QB is the missing piece but in stead it looks like we’re starting a multiple year rebuild except we no longer have the draft assets needed due to said trade up. Rookie or not, I don’t think anyone in the Panthers organization expect Bryce to come out looking worse than Pj Walker or Sam Darnold because if they did they never make that trade.

Let me ask you this. Everyone used to talk about how DJ Moore wasn’t a true number or wasn’t worth a big contract etc (I personally really liked him and his skill set) It seems the front office felt a QB was more important than a dynamic receiver. So how is it that we upgraded at RB, TE1 and our WRs minus DJ Moore (we cut Shi Smith who caught passes and scored TDs for example) yet are significant worse on offense. Was DJ Moore really the reason why we were able to throw for more than 150 yards in a game?

The Panthers had an even weaker cast outside of DJ Moore last season but were still able to move the ball through the air. It wasn’t great but it wasn’t this historically bad.

I’m not saying he’s a world beater but what changed between last year and now? The coaches and the guy throwing the football. Just about everyone agrees we upgraded our coaching staff so that just leaves the QB.

You kind of have no choice if you ever want the opposing defense to stop suffocating you at the line of scrimmage. Chark and Thielen didn’t fluke their way onto an NFL roster and TMJ averaged 17.5 yards per reception last year which is further than 90% of Bryce’s completions this year.