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Hendrickson will turn 31 during the season with 1 year left on his deal and he knows the Bengals aren't going to tag him. He wanted guaranteed money past this season, but in the end, he gains nothing from actually holding out into the season, push comes to shove for him, you play the one year left and then hit FA next year after hopefully a good season. Parsons just turned 26 and the Cowboys can control him for 2 more seasons after this one through the franchise tag, plus playing only risks injury before he signs what is likely going to end up being the biggest non QB contract in league history. They're not remotely the same thing.

So one game just gets cancelled? That would really put a mighty big asterisk on a perfect season

This was one of the things I was always saying pre-draft, that his floor is like 20-25th best WR in the league if he never improves from what he already is with his size, hands, and catch radius. But his ceiling if he puts it all together is a yearly Top 10 WR who will legitimately be in discussion as a top 5 WR as well. This is why he was always the pick for me, you can't get WRs like that in FA, you have to draft them or give up a stupid amount of draft capital in a trade and then give them a huge contract on top, like Tyreek with the Dolphins.

Maybe, maybe not, because really, he's getting a massive bag no matter he signs his next contract, so if he just flat out insists that he won't play for the Cowboys again and he holds firm on it, they will eventually cave, he holds all the power in this one given his age and status in the game. If Jones hadn't taken shots at Parsons recently, I'd probably be more inclined to think this was just posturing and he'll end up signing an extension with them. But he did, and Parsons seems legitimately upset by it, it's not an insignificant factor in all this.

I think the odds of Dallas trading Parsons is a lot higher than you're assuming here. This isn't a McLaurin situation, a really good player who has probably a few years of high level play left and is probably around 15th-ish best at his position. This is maybe the best edge rusher in the league who just turned 26 Dallas can't really just let him sit out, if he flat out refuses to play for them again (which very well may be the case as he sounds totally done with them), they're going to have to trade him in the end, he's too big of an asset to let sit and lose out on the return he can get them.

This offseason has me like....

The Cowboys literally had him in their building and didn't make him a full time pass rusher until mid-season when their DL was crushed by injuries. Not saying he wouldn't have rushed the passer in situations, but he likely would have been an off ball LB on every other team, as that's even where the Cowboys put him.

Seems very possible that Thielen could end up being the odd man out of the WR rotation this year and I think we may end up trading him. If Renfrow proves to be just as, if not more, effective as a possession WR out of the slot, then there really isn't a role for Thielen. As he isn't at all an outside WR these days, Horn is going to be the speedster in the slot, and then we have T-Mac/XL/Coker who can all play outside or slide into the slot and likely will be rotating who lines up where all year. If he's going to be our #6 in that sense, find a WR needy team at the end of camp and try and flip him for a MLB if possible, he's gotta be useful to a contending team who needs a steady presence and sure hands in the slot (Buffalo?). I'd love to have him around to mentor T-Mac/XL/Coker, but there's also no reason that can't be Renfrow either and we badly need a MLB or even another CB, much more than we need a 6th WR.

Sorry, but that's just a terrible way of looking at it, for a couple reasons. First is that if we drafted Parsons, or hell, if ANY other team drafted him, the odds are that he wouldn't be viewed as possibly the best pass rusher in the league right now. He was drafted by the Cowboys to be an ILB and the majority of draft experts viewed him as such as well, who could situationally pass rush. The only reason the Cowboys ended up putting him at DE that year was because of how many injuries they had on the DL. So more than likely, any other team drafts him that year and he plays more LB than pass rusher and is a totally different player than he is today. He ended up in a situation that forced him into a role he never would have had as a rookie and it completely changed the trajectory of his career. Beyond that, even if you want to go with the assumption that he is the same player he is today even if we drafted him. Then the overwhelming odds are that we are a better and completely different team right now, because we'd have had him on the edge the last few years causing havoc. It would be the person going back in time, stepping on a butterfly and changing history, who knows where we'd be, but we'd likely have been a better team the last few years and thus paying him that money wouldn't be dumb. The combination of what it would cost to give up to get him, plus the cap space that could be used elsewhere, is not worth it for one player with where we currently are as a franchise this year. Adding Parsons doesn't make us a contender, it probably still only makes us a borderline playoff team this year and then we don't have the high draft picks or cap space next offseason to continue to properly build around him more. It would be the Bears and Khalil Mack situation all over again, they blew their wad on that trade/contract and couldn't build around it. Any team that isn't a title contender THIS season with Parsons, shouldn't even be considering trading for him, let alone one like us who aren't likely to make the playoffs even if things go well for us this year.

2 problems with this thinking First is this isn't a Horn or DB type of contract, Parsons will become the highest paid non QB in NFL history. You don't pay one player that amount of money unless you expect to be in contention, which we'd still not yet be there even with Parsons. Second is that you disagree with my thoughts based on the expectation of the FO being able to draft impact players beyond the first round. If you're making the trade expecting them to hit on our 2nd and 3rd rounders the next few years because we don't have 1st's... why not look at it as expecting them to have hit on Scourton and Princely. And as good as Parsons is, if we hit on both of those picks, while keeping our future 1st's as well as having that massive cap room difference between a Parsons contract and Scourton/Princley's over the next 4 years, then not trading for Parsons would be FAR more beneficial to our team than if we were to.

While I'd love to add him, it just doesn't make sense for where we are at in our re-build right now. The only teams who should be interested are those who have a very legitimate shot at winning the SB this season, as any team who makes the trade is going to be mortgaging their future to make the move. Teams who make these kinds of trades and then give them the massive contract, in the hopes that it will expedite their path to contention, ALWAYS ends up backfiring because they have to give up the 1st round picks that are then needed to help build out the rest of the roster after eating up such a significant chunk of the cap on the new contract. There is no way the Cowboys trade him for anything less than 2 future 1st rounders (and probably more), plus we'll have to make him the highest paid non QB in league history. Not to mention that it would then have made the Scourton and/or Princely picks a bit of a waste, as those 2nd and 3rd round picks would have been better off used on a ILB or DB

The team posted this one on social media today and it's just tooooooooo sweet, I'd pay some good money to get a signed copy of this thing.

The crazy part is that as good as that catch was, if it was T-Mac, it wouldn't even be in his Top 5 catches over his last 2 seasons, more than likely would crack the Top 10, but even that might not be a guarantee. And I mean that as no slight to Thielen, I love having him as a Panther. But just saying, get used to a number of eye popping grabs by T-Mac every year, it's just what he does, those hands are vice grips covered with glue.

Wow, just looked up some stats, yea... Olsen stands no chance. What would everyone say about Zach Ertz's chances at making the HOF? Exactly, nobody would even consider it a possibility. Olsen played in 31 more games than Ertz did, but is only 595 yards and 7 TDs behind Olsen's numbers. And while Olsen has the 3 straight 1k seasons and Ertz only has 1, they each have the same number of seasons with more than 800 yards and Ertz's high season is slightly above Olsen's. A repeat of last season for Ertz, playing in 17 games with 654 yards and 7 TDs would push him past Olsen's yardage, tie his TDs, and have done it in almost a full season less of games played, while also having a SB ring. Olsen being the first TE to have 3 straight 1k seasons is pretty much the only feather in his HOF resume's cap, and unfortunately that won't be something to even get him consideration in the end.

I actually think that as long as he has a solid camp and makes the team (which is more likely than not), that Horn will have a bigger role than some expect, because he really is just different than any of the others. Most #6 WR's won't even be active on game days, let alone get any snaps. But his speed/agility is unique compared to the rest of the WR unit to where they're going to have plays in the game plan every week to utilize him. Even if at times he's just out there as a decoy to keep safeties honest by having him run some go routes, or putting him in motion for play action to force the defense to react.

The difference is that T-Mac also regularly did it in games throughout his career too, he's not doing it just to be flashy in practice, he legitimately practices it because he's able to translate it to gamedays. Also, as I've said so many times but some people still don't like to see it for some reason, T-Mac is a such a perfect fit for Bryce that it's not even funny. Bryce excels with two things in particular, placing the ball with touch and improvising. T-Mac is outstanding at finding holes in the coverage on broken plays and giving his QB a big target to find, it's what him and his college QB (who was also his HS QB) did best. And because of his absurd catch radius, it allows Bryce to put those touch passes in a place that only T-Mac can catch it. Horn is going to be great to get the ball to in space, but realistically, pure speedsters are best with strong armed QB's who can take advantage of the deep ball and throwing it past the defense for the WR to run under it, that's not Bryce.

No he won't, and that's nothing against Brown or what he can be, but DT's are only considered "generational" when they also rack up sacks. He can still be an elite player for us, make pro bowls and all pro teams, but unless he significantly increases his sack total, he'll never make it to the "generational" label, just the nature of the position and today's game. Racking up tackles from the DL just doesn't flash enough to earn that standing these days.

Neither stand any chance of making it under the new voting rules (and hopefully they still change them back, as the new rules will end up keeping TONS of deserving players out). Even under the old rules, Olsen would only have had a very outside chance if the TE position didn't keep putting up bigger and bigger numbers ever year, but since they are, he'd likely never make it either. TD is a legit Panthers legend, maybe the most "Panthers" player of all time, but league-wide is more of a feel good story with his 3 ACL recoveries and a WPMOY award, but that's not going to get him into the HOF unfortunately.

lol, in a post I think yesterday I literally said "T-Mac does his Inspector Gadget thing on bad practice passes all the time"

This is ridiculous, Redzone I wouldn't have cared much about, because that's just the games on Sundays. But NFL Network makes no sense, the best thing about it is that it's different than ESPN, which I haven't watched a single thing on it besides live sports for close to 10 years now, even the NFL draft I stick to the NFL Network coverage.

I told ya'll, he was going to make some absurd catches in camp that gets people buzzing because his hands are just off the charts good. But THIS also wasn't quite what I was expecting, usually he's making stupid catches in practice when a QB misses him and he does his Inspector Gadget thing and his arm extends 10 feet, this was just crazy though for him to turn and have the water boy there in his way and still snag it.

lol, this might be the first time someone brought up T-Mac vs Hunter in 2024 and it wasn't me who had to speak the truth about that game. But just to add to the correct post above, it also wasn't like Arizona forced their way to have T-Mac not get matched up against Hunter that game either. Hunter came into the game banged up, was in and out of the game in the first half and then was in street clothes after halftime. Go watch one of the videos of their 2023 matchup, because not only did T-Mac catch a nasty TD against Hunter, the tape is littered with badly missed PI's by Hunter as well as a few times his QB just was off target after T-Mac beat Hunter's coverage.

Apples to Oranges Kuechly was a generational player, especially with his mental side of the game which helped the defense in a way few (if any) other defensive players ever have. If there was another Kuechly, then yea, it's a different story in how important of a player they would be to the defense. Also, the game has changed in even the short time since Luke retired, I think an elite corner is the 2nd most important player to have on defense after an elite pass rusher with how the game is played these days.