tukafan21

100% give him his props, he earned it today. But it's the same thing I've said all season long when pointing out concerning things after wins. If you (and by you, I more mean the team) just stick your head in the sand over real concerns, just because we won (or even because he did have his best game as a pro yet), then it's only going to cause problems down the line. Great game, full credit, but I think the game on the whole was more fools gold than a breakthrough. Get upset at me for saying it, I know most people will, but just my objective perspective.

In no world do I expect him to make every throw in a game, at all. But it's that there are certain types of throws that he just flat out can't make, and he had a number of them again today. That's what concerns me, not that he wasn't perfect, but that we continue to see him try to thread the ball into windows when he needs to be driving it, but he's just unable to drive those throws in that way. And again, I give him full credit for having his best game of his career, I'm not out here saying he played bad today, not at all. But it's still just a fact that he doesn't have an NFL arm and that fact alone is why I hope we move on from him this offseason. It's like how people say a golfer has every shot in his bag. The Bryce equivalent would be that he can only make half the shots that professional golfers need to be able to make. Sure, you could still go out there and play a great round, maybe win a tournament. But that doesn't mean it's a golfer I'm going to make a long term bet on.

Also a Bryce hater here, and yes, I'll give him credit for having his best game of his career. But at the same time, he still had so many just baffling plays and terrible throws. It's a very weird feeling after this one, as I still very much don't think he is a viable long term solution at QB, but it was his best game of his career, I can admit that. But also admittedly, my fear is he just played his way into having his 5th year picked up and given the starting position again next year.

Yes, the mistakes are bad, but for me, they're still the secondary problem, the big one is the numerous incomplete passes because he's unable to drive the ball when he isn't able to have perfect balance and step into the throw. Because even if you fix his mental mistakes, he still will never have a strong enough arm for this league. You can't win with a QB who can't drive a throw from the hash mark to the opposite sideline and only 15 yards downfield.

Kneeling on it is a terrible indictment on Bryce and them knowing his lack of arm strength. As we didn't have enough time to get into FG range, but we could have gotten into range or a Hail Mary... if we had a QB capable of throwing that pass. Canales felt that even if they got a chunk play and called the TO, that Bryce still wouldn't be able to throw the Hail Mary, so just kneeled on it instead.

Also a microcosm of this game itself Bryce plays his best game of his career, but at the same time also had a good 6-8 plays (if not more) today where he just made terrible decisions and/or throws that in the end, likely cost us the win. So even when he plays well, his issues still cause problems

The weird thing is that in ways this was his best game of the season, maybe his best as a Panther. Easily his best game of throwing the ball down the field for a change. But in others, you could say it was one of his worst as he's made some terrible mistakes on critical plays that have clearly cost us the game. Holding it too long taking a few bad sacks as well as multiple passes where he just doesn't have the arm to drive it properly, but even an average NFL arm would have been good enough to make the plays and we likely win the game.

That play might be the perfect representation of this season

Noodle arm can't drive the ball You can't contend with a QB who can only throw touch passes

This one has nothing to do with T-Mac, I'd be saying this same thing if it was XL, a player I was calling for us to trade at the deadline because I think he's a bust. It just happened to be T-Mac on the play, but it has literally nothing to do with him, it's plain as day that no player was catching that ball on purpose, it would have needed to be deflected directly into them.

Well looking like he's finally going to crack 200 yards for the 2nd time this season. Guess we'll have another week of people going back to thinking Bryce can be our long term solution again

No, you have not, but it's okay, just keep sounding dumb

In THAT specific situation, then yes it would have been. If he adjusted his hands/arms/body to make that catch given where it was tipped and that he was already diving for the ball, it would have been one of the most insane catches ever. It's not about tipped passes not being able to be caught, it's the totality of him diving one direction and the ball getting tipped a good foot (if not more) in the opposite direction, all maybe 2 feet in front of him. It's just not possible to react and adjust THAT much in THAT short of a distance. Again, the only way that ball is getting caught is if it was tipped directly into his arm/body and that allowed him to bring it in, he was never adjusting to it given the situation.

Seriously People have said I have an agenda to defend T-Mac no matter what, but if anyone can look at that play and think there was even a 1% chance he should have adjusted to make that catch, then they have a bigger anti T-Mac agenda than my pro T-Mac views. Just lunacy to think he could have adjusted to that one, the defender just made a great play, it happens.

No they wouldn't There is no way in hell a player is reacting to that ball tipped just in front of them and changing the trajectory as much as it did. The ONLY way a player is catching that is if the tip caused it to hit him in the body/arm and because of it he was able to secure it. But in no world is any player in the history of the sport making that catch because they were able to adjust to the tip pass and purposefully catch it on it's new trajectory, not with him already diving/going down and extending for the ball.

No, this is nothing like that, it just flat out was a ball that no player is making, like absolutely insane to think he even could have caught it, let alone saying he SHOULD have caught it

There isn't a player in the game that was making that catch. He was literally diving for the ball and it was tipped 2 feet in front of him and altered the path of the ball by a good foot or so behind his diving outstretched hand. It only "looked catchable" when watched in super slow motion, but I don't think even race car drivers (who have obscene reaction time) could have reacted in time to that one.

And right on cue LOL Guy was diving for a pass and 2 feet before the ball got to him it was tipped and completely changed the trajectory of the pass. But sure, he "dropped" it, SMH

Just waiting for people to say T-Mac should have caught it since it went "right through his arms" lol

But but but I was told he was too slow to make big YAC plays

Hope not, we have no creativity in our offense, not play design or calls. If we at least had those things, I could be on board with seeing him for another year with a better QB, but I've seen enough to feel like he doesn't have what it takes to be a great HC.

How is it THAT clear that a specific player was blitzing and they still have nobody even think about picking him up?!?!

Totally different when you're talking about an RB decision, especially when one was already on the team and was a 1,000 yard rusher himself last year. And I guarantee you are wrong, professional athletes look at their teammates like brothers and are willing to go to the mat for them when they believe in them, even more so when you're talking about a QB. Those same eyes would see them still losing with the guy they just picked up off the street and don't know at all vs the guy they've been in the thick of it with for the last few seasons and look at as a family member. They would understand moving on from him in the offseason, but benching him for a guy you sign off the street more than halfway through the season is entirely different.

Fair, but having had a more successful career to date doesn't mean we would be more likely to win games 11 through 17 this season with them as our starting QB. We'd are able to do other things, but they still wouldn't be as good as we would be with Bryce. There is a formula we can win with Bryce as our starter, but it requires a good running game, a good defense, and Bryce making just enough of his rare shining great plays to get us those wins. It sucks for us to watch as fans, and I understand the desire to see more. But I think sticking with Bryce is what is best for the franchise long term. It keeps the guys together as a family who is playing for each other. That way when we move on from Bryce and maybe Canales, the new HC and QB will come into a locker room that is still together, rather one that fell apart over the last 2 months of the year because we benched Bryce for a guy off the street and still sucked.