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What? Hubbard is literally 10th in the NFL in carries and that is despite only getting 16 carries the first 2 weeks because of how terrible Bryce Young was. He's averaging 17.5 carries his last 4 games. For comparison, the NFL's leading rusher Derrick Henry averages 19.8 carries per game. Barkley averages 18.5. And those two play on way better teams than us, teams that can actually afford to run the ball at the end of games. Some of you are just reaching for anything you can think of to blame. This is 2024. Teams aren't gonna give a dude 20 carries every single week. And what, do you want them to run Miles Sanders more? Is that REALLY what is going to turn things around?

Okay.... and this disapproves what I am saying how exactly? They had the lead for the majority of the game. Thus they ran the ball more than the team who didn't have the lead. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but you have been watching football for a long time, right? In your experience, how often does the team without the lead out-run the team with the lead? How often does the team dead last in points allowed run the ball more than the other team? How often does a team give up 20+ points in the first half and keep running the ball in the second? It just isn't a thing. You act like the Panthers just abandoned the run completely. Again, Hubbard had 18 carries. That is not a small amount, especially when you lost the game by 18 points. He's 10th in the NFL in carries. Like seriously, what do you want? For him to get 30+ carries a game while the other team clears 30 points? If you want to criticize Canales, feel free. But acting like his approach to the run/pass divide is unusual just isn't correct. Panthers problems have nothing to do with them "not running the ball enough". The simple fact of the matter is when you have the worst defense in the NFL, there is only so much you can run the ball. This is just a fact.

Yeah because they had the lead. Teams who do not have the lead do not run 38 times in a game. They just don't. We ran the ball as much as any HC would without having the lead.

We are on pace for a -283 point differential, which would be the 2nd worst all-time. The only team ahead would be the expansion 1976 Bucs "We're not far away" lol. I'm not trying to be overly negative but this team is so far away it ain't even funny.

I mean, Hubbard ran the ball 18 times. Sanders had 3 carries. It isn't like we didn't try to run the ball. There is just only so much you can run when your defense lets the other team do whatever they want. Running the ball more isn't going to make the other teams offense any less effective. Not against this defense.

There is no such thing as "controlling the pace" when you are giving up 21+ points in the first half every week. This situation isn't comparable to what Wilks dealt with in the slightest.

Gave up 38 points today, 22 in the first half This defense is SPECIAL

FEED HUBBARD

Panthers are going to get blitzkrieg'd

Panthers suck

There is no way Hackett should be ahead of Hue Jackson. The dude went 1-31 over 2 season span. That may never be surpassed.

Jeffrey Simmons. They also got Snead from the Chiefs. That defense definitely has some talent on it, way more than ours. There is zero comparison. EDIT - Looked up to make sure I wasn't tripping. Quandre Diggs, Amani Hooker, Harold Landry, Murray, Joseph-Day... yeah it is way ahead of ours. That defense isn't proof that it isn't always about the player.

To be fair we were playing 2 of the worst defenses in the NFL. Not Panthers D bad, but bad nonetheless. Chicago put the clamps on us. I think that will be closer to what we see going forward. I do think the run game is legit but Dalton is going to start turning it over more, especially as he tries to keep up with the other offense.

I wouldn't say I want the Panthers to lose, but I will say a Panthers victory doesn't make me nearly as happy as it did 10 years ago.

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact Herbert suffered that high ankle sprain against us that also contributed to their low output in the second half. Nobody is having it both ways. You said they took their foot off the gas. I am telling you that is just how the Chargers play + Herbert getting hurt. Chargers offense wasn't good in Week 1 even with a healthy Herbert. It isn't a good offense. Their WRs outside of Ladd suck, and he's not a WR1.

Chargers didn't "take their foot off the gas". That is just how they play and Jim Harbaugh coaches - he has always been extra conservative. They have far and away the fewest pass attempts in the NFL. They average 17 PPG for the season. And they scored 20 points against us in the first half. How does a defense giving up 20 points in one half to a team that averages 17 per game prove your point?

I'll always love Cam Newton, so I'm here for it.

Nah, this defense is that bad. We gave up 30 in the first half vs New Orleans with 0 points scored. 20 in the first half vs Chargers with 0 points scored. We "held" the Bengals to 21 in the 1st half. 27 points in the first half to Chicago with 7 points scored. I've been saying it all season. I've never seen a team depth chart look this bad on defense. We've legit got guys who got dismissed from practice squads getting major PT. This is why I can't get mad at Evero or Canales. It feels like there are some people here still who don't fully understand how bad this defense is talent-wise. There is no saving them. Offenses can do whatever they want. And you wanna know what is crazy? The first half of our schedule is the EASIEST when it comes to the offenses/QBs we play. We still have games against the Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Bucs, Cardinals, Falcons, CHIEFS. I would bet good money the Panthers stay around 31-33 PPG allowed this year.

Top tier TEs usually don't hit the market. TE play league-wide isn't pretty. Only 2 TEs have over 250 receiving yards this year and one of them, Dallas Goedert, was just on a bye week. Behind them is Jake Ferguson at 229 yards, and he's also only played 4 games. TE is just a hard position to hit on.

It's the NFL. Players get hurt.

My man we were always that lol

How would better coaches prevent players from getting concussed? Clowney has been injury prone his entire career. Wonnum and Brooks were hurt before they got on the team. Thielen hurt his hamstring - every team deals with a player having a hamstring injury.

How anyone can look at the talent on this defense and find a way to blame the DC… Lol

I understanding wanting to see the team perform better, but what do people expect? This is the least talented football roster in the NFL by far.

Who the hell is Thomas Incoom? Where are we finding these guys?