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First guy who popped into my mind. Another guy who benefited from the others. Remember Deshaun Hall and how he wasn’t just a product of being opposite Myles Garrett.

I’m with you there. New deals are always at the top of the range even if not the best but I agree. Surtain has performed better and been healthy to boot. Denver’s deal looks cheap now. I’ll say it again, we absolutely overrate our players in here. When they leave, we then say they were never good. Horn is solid but his 4 years aren’t close to being the best CB in the league. Unfortunately, we do overpay here because we’ve sucked and aren’t a draw and he’s good enough that he and his agent knew we’d give him whatever he wanted.

That’s better, I replied to a much earlier post. It’s still low end TE1 money but salaries go up every year. I’ll call it a slight overpay but I’m amazed at how many people thought 2-$16M was a good deal for our backup TE. I’m also amazed at how good Tremble is based on these posts versus what I watched. IMO, this is a meh move that doesn’t improve us at all. He’s just more of the same. We need to at some point start replacing current roster spots with better players. It’s another reminder that all we can do with day 2 and day 3 picks is get backups or forced starters (nobody better) at best.

These stances are stupid. Tyreke Hill (and Kelce is basically like having another WR1) was pretty good in the playoffs. Heck, he was amazing when the Bengals beat KC after that wild Buffalo game. Chase in Cincy is pretty good too and he lost to Stafford and Kupp. AJ Brown and Smith had some nice TDs for Philly in the SB. Randy Moss helped Brady have his best year ever in an almost undefeated year. There are loads of examples but people seem to forget then Welkers, Edelmans, Branches, especially when the team has a Gronk or Kelce.

No it’s not. Go to Spotrac and look at TE salaries. $8M was right at the middle of TE1s, around 15th-17th. That’s average TE1 money not TE2. Tremble was 42nd in receiving yards. $8M is triple what he should have gotten. We did the same thing for Thomas. We’ve paid our TEs like we’ve had average starting TEs when in reality our starting TEs couldn’t have made most rosters. I’m tired of us paying starting salaries to guys who’d never start for any other team. Kelce had maybe his worst year ever and was paid $20k per yard. We just paid Tremble $34k per yard. SMH. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. This is basically extending Ian Thomas all over again.

It really is. If he truly was amazing, he should have supplanted Ewers in 2024 or been so insulted that he transferred. Lawrence and Fields were “generational” ranked and Lawrence started day 1 as a true freshman and Fields bailed on Georgia when he didn’t play and took OSU to the 4 team playoffs as a sophomore. Arch wasn’t close to either. It’ll be interesting to see if he develops but based on the hype, it’s amazing that he spent two years as a backup and is finally the guy as a junior. This should be his last college season and we’ve never really seen him play. 2/3 of his entire passing career were against a team that went 3-5 in the Sun Belt and a 2-10 Mississippi St team.

We’ve had the luxury of going BPA for years. What makes you think this is the year we decide to actually do it? I can honestly say that I’m more disappointed in the 2024 draft class at the end of the season than I was after the draft and I wasn’t happy after the draft. I’m extremely worried we are going to make a big mistake at 8. Hoping I’m wrong and somehow we pull a stud.

Agreed. Lawrence won a title as a freshman and Arch was only being used as a running threat (and fumbled to boot) in the playoffs as a sophomore. Ewers is very likely never going to be an NFL starter and Arch is the guy teams are tanking for now?

I watched a couple games and I left underwhelmed because at the start of the season he was the top edge rusher at the time.

Are we drafting him to be a straight LB or an edge rusher? The potential comparison to Parsons has been brought up. Only Luke was worth the 8th pick, so are we expecting him to be Luke or Burns? If the former, he better be Luke or it’s way too high and if the latter, he’s on the small side.

Actually, from the combine, he’s 6’1” and 243. He’s not a safety but he’s a bit small.

The Nope was agreeing with his last statement that the clocks aren’t the same setup. I get the confusion, but I was agreeing that pro day numbers are BS as everyone seems to improve. Thats why it’s disappointing when guys don’t run at the combine where you get apples to apples. The silliness does appear when a guy runs a 4.39 and someone thinks a 4.49 guy is slow. For RBs or WRs or DBs, the 3 cone and shuttle might be more important. It’s very rare you run straight line for 40 yards. I’ll take a sub 7 3 cone and a 4.5 over a bad 3 cone and a 4.4 for a WR/RB because making cuts and shiftiness is more important to getting open or hitting a hole, etc.

100% agree. None of the numbers, drills or college tape guarantees anything. Just have to use it all and just because there’s bad tape or bad drills, it doesn’t mean a player’s off the board, it just means when you watch Little’s drills, you don’t draft him until day 3 or let someone else catch the knife. Hurney and Fitterer had a hard time with watching everything and using 1 part of the process to make their picks instead of everything. One year we use PFF, next year it’s RAS and the next it’s coach’s feedback. That’s what happens when the GM/scouts are bottom of the barrel. This is Morgan’s make or break year after a poor 2024 draft.

That’s why it annoys me when people, who don’t watch the combine, poos it as just measurements. Sure that’s part of it and the numbers can show you which guys shouldn’t be targets, like Hurney drafting Gaulden in the 3rd when he was the least athletic DB at the combine. The drills are basically setup to simulate in game athleticism and abilities. The 2019 combine was a perfect example. While it didn’t show Burns’ weakness against the run, the drills showed his elite athleticism which showed on the field. On the other hand, Little looked downright awful in the drills, worst OL by far. There’s a reason why Little started the offseason as a top 15 pick and ended outside of most top 50s. Hurney was still in love and eating a meatball sandwich during drills so we took him two rounds early and traded up to do so.

20.8 at a single point doesn’t say anything. They had Golden at above 24 MPH and 3 other WRs at above 23. Coker got over 21 MPH at one point on his long TD and he’s not “fast” overall. Also, I think there is a certain amount of time you have to spend at that speed For those stats. They had momentary speeds of 25+ MPH on the WR gauntlets and the highest speeds of the NFL are never that high.

They mentioned the average starting NFL RB was 4.49. Anything in the 4.4-4.49 is considered above average even in the NFL. Low 4.4s and under is really fast. This was a really fast combine but we also knew the RBs were a well above average group this year.

Nope, which is why it’s a negative to run only at a pro day. Our own Damiere Byrd ran a 4.28 at his pro day. Funchess ran a 4.7 at the combine and then a 4.5 at Michigan’s pro day. Add 0.2 to any pro day run. If McMillan was truly fast, he’d run at the combine. Even a 4.5 would have been solid at his size.

I don’t see anyone worth paying this year. We aren’t a playoff team and none of these guys are even at an AT or heck Diontae level. No idea if Legette will fulfill his potential but I don’t want Coker or Legette to lose any time to run through a mediocre bunch of vets. I’d rather go BPA in draft and if there’s a decent potential WR in round 3+, take a rookie. Thielen is still under contract so use our multiple day 3 picks and UDFAs to fill out WRs.

Yep and we knew during this college season that the RB class was great. An NFL team’s GM/Scouts should 100% have known that going into the 2024 draft. We have to dip again because Brooks isn’t even playing this year.

Also, man, it was dumb taking a torn ACL RB in the 2nd last year with the RB depth in this deep draft class this year. Really dumb. Could have had a stud CB or C instead and grabbed a complimentary RB on day 3 who can actually play in 2025.

31.5” arms on a 6’4” frame with 10” inch hands looks like a big catch radius. Might be what made him look taller.

I’m all for it as well. Stupid strategy, period. It reminds me of Hurney/Fitterer and their tendency to fall for certain people like Little and Grier or Corral and DJ Johnson and ignoring people who drop to great value like Crosby or Trey Smith. If the Falcons have offensive blinders on, that’s awesome and maybe drops some BPA guys to us, especially day 3.

I’m a little uneasy paying through the nose for another Eagles FA who likely will not be nearly as effective outside of the Eagles DL like Sanders was ineffective away from the Philly OL/offense.

We only made one K pick in the 7th and it ended up being one of the best kickers in the NFL. As per our usual dysfunction, that K has played in 5 Super Bowls in his 8 years in the league, winning 3. He’s never not been in the playoffs and he’s never not won his division. He’s 17-5 in the playoffs while we are 0-1 in the same 8 years. You really can’t make this poo up.

Why not let the Raiders release him? He's been mediocre at best and they probably would rather draft a backup to Bowers with upside. If we actually want to improve the TE room, Mayer sure doesn’t seem to be the way to do it.