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Again, why XL?

I don’t get it. Why are the most important pass plays going to XL?

When I watched the replay I will say that I saw the same thing. He didn’t fight through the contact. I don’t think he could get to it but his lack of football IQ came into play a bit. If he fights inside, he might draw a flag. It was a bad throw by Young, but it looked like the CB on him was not looking back. He’s got to learn how to draw a flag to save his QB because Young does that stuff. Also, that play has worked once and it was likely a lucky perfect pass. Can we stop going to XL on that play? Even on that TD he was well covered. It’s a terrible play that doesn’t work.

I didn’t realize the quick video can pickup a flag. I understand when the refs on the field can pickup a penalty after discussing but I haven’t seen that video review undo other bad penalties. There was no ref huddle on that.

Exactly, they chose Tua instead of Herbert. Not an indictment of tanking, that’s like us not tanking and getting a 2nd for Burns and trading away our future for Young. If we had actually tanked and trade Moore and Burns early, we’d be a much more talented team. Even more so if we dumped Fitterer et al with Rhule.

Ravens could have piled it on if they wanted to but they basically hit the brakes in the 3rd. The funny part is that the Dolphins missed a 35 yard FG, had a turnover in the red zone and didn’t get a 4th and 2 in the red zone. They also had a BS tripping call on a pass that wiped out a Waddle reception to the Baltimore 7 yard line. 28-18 if they just got FGs on those red zone drives/aborted drives. Some better play calls and it could have easily been a game. Again, I think the Ravens could have scored more if needed, but the Dolphins (and refs) blew a lot of scoring opportunities last night.

Exactly who I was thinking about. He’d be a helluva RB for them. If I’m the Chiefs GM, I’m on the horn already. Late 2nd rounder to give Patty the angry RB that Pacheco and Hubt just aren’t anymore? Heck yeah. Nobody has shown that they are unbeatable so KC can absolutely risk it.

Yep, guess who we could have had: JSN*, Jared Verse (nice edge option) and 2025 pick 46 and Atlanta’s 2026 1st * just a wish but the 2023 2nd was pick 36 and that and Mingo’s pick was enough to jump to 20 and take a much better WR. We obviously wanted a WR since we took Mingo.

I’m not talking about when they started to do some CYA. The quote was about Frank and Fitterer being in lock step. That was said in press conferences right after the draft and before mini-camps. The other guy gave me a huge post on why Reich is awesome. He’s doing exactly what I mentioned for the excuses. Bottom line is that, yes, I believe there’s more truth to those early press conferences than to current day gut feelings and post-Reich/Fitterer firing rants trying to CYA. Could it all have been lies? Sure, but nothing has actually come out proving it. Believe me and I promise don’t hold as much weight as actual spoken words after the draft/before Young snapped a ball as a Panther. Again, look at the PG poo. To this day, people still think Tepper in May saying PG means that Tepper made the pick himself even though the OC discussed QBs as PGs with a team reporter 3 months before Tepper regurgitated a snippet of that.

Why lie? At that point Young hadn’t played at all for us. It’s funny that people won’t believe the story we heard at 0% hot seat. They would rather believe what another huddle says he feels with 0 actual proof.

Frank was there when Fitterer went on about it and yes, I believe what the GM says during a post draft interview when Young hadn’t been to a single practice yet. I typically believe what is actually said versus a gut feeling from a huddler. Same reason why I never believed Tepper did the scouting and came up with the point guard thing. Thomas Brown, the OC, was quoted about QBs as PGs 3 months prior which makes it far more probable that Tepper parroted what he heard from the coaches. Also at that point, Fitterer, who I never liked, had no reason to make excuses. We had the QB he so wanted and that everyone did. No reason to make anything up because Fitterer was also pretty well liked by the optimists in here. Back then, they were telling us why Burns shouldn’t have been traded. I still think Tepper sucks because it’s all been his hires so he’s to blame but man people can’t seem to get off the boogeyman, one guy did it all, thought process.

You are? Fitterer kept telling the story about how they were 100% in line. He said they wrote down who they liked before and after the draft prep and they both agreed. Fitterer also talked about how he had his eye on Young during his sophomore year, which makes it even more puzzling that he didn’t trade Burns to make sure he could get Young in the next draft. Reich got a lot of excuses in here about Young because so many people loved the hire, but there was a lot of pre-draft discussions about GM and HC being in agreement. Heck, the point guard analogy came from Thomas Brown in February and Tepper still gets blamed for parroting what the coaches were invariably saying. Tepper has sucked because it’s his team but man does he get a lot of blame for decisions the football people said they made. I guess Rhule was enough of a personality that people focused on him but Frank and Scott got passes and Tepper was an easy target. It allowed the Fitterer and Reich fans to not feel as bad that they were wrong.

That OL was just awful to watch. Add in the drops on some potential nice gainers and that offense is terrible.

Definitely ugly and I’m glad we won, period. That said, when an 0-6 team that benched its QB has a chance to tie the game at the end, it just feels too close. It’s nice to see the studs play well and others step up but I’m definitely worried about the upcoming schedule.

Lol. One very under thrown ball that Legette played well means Dalton is good? I’m sorry but 1 first downs He’s from Dalton is basically why we as Panthers fans were still legitimately worried that we didn’t put away that terrible Jets team. Sauce Gardner didn’t even play a down after Young went to the locker room.

I hope it means something but it’s nice to see.

He’s so bad. He used to be OK but that was years ago.

I hope not but there was no reason for the throw to be that low.

Corbett ain’t good and why are we ignoring Dowdle?

It’s so frustrating watching his balls float like that. Horn should have caught it regardless but you’re bringing the DB there who likely knocks it away anyway. The people who said Young’s problem is something other than his arm surely aren’t watching the games because his arm strength is absolutely his biggest issue. We could have easily scored on that drive if he just had the ability to hit the open guys before the DBs got back into the plays.

We’ve had opportunities to take 2 of the top 5 Cs in the game and instead we took TMJ and Johnathan Brooks. Our drafts since 2017 have been 1 player per draft and then huge misses on lots of really good NFL players (who the huddle have talk about in the draft threads). It’s been mentioned here so many times to draft more OL once you get to the 2nd and beyond since C/G talent is top tier in day 2 and lots of surprise day 3 guys. Taking Brooks over Frazier just looks worse and worse as our OL helps Chuba and Rico look great and Frazier would be a large improvement over Mays.

And honestly, Metcalf was right there but didn’t play the ball well at all.

We only have 5 sacks which is dead last. Some teams have 20-30. Our pass rush is atrocious, worst in the league. That’s why we’re 22nd in scoring defense even with a shutout. That Atlanta game helps our rankings so much, but we’ll likely trend down over the season as it counts for 6% instead of 17%. Personally, the yardage numbers can be deceiving which is why I like scoring defense as a better representation. We of course look way better than last year but I wouldn’t consider it a top 10 defense yet.

Nope, you are correct. 3rd is the Bills one row above us.

Agreed. When this first came up, someone posted that Young had been behind in the 4th quarter of 39 of 40 games. Some of those will be close and we pull out a win. Because we’ve basically always been behind, I’d bet that Young is far and away the leader in potential GWDs. I sure don’t feel like we’ve won a lot of games since we are 10-30 with Bryce. This year is our best year so far, but this is as cherry picked as you can get with a stat.