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You are? Fitterer kept telling the story about how they were 100% in line. He said they wrote down who they liked before and after the draft prep and they both agreed. Fitterer also talked about how he had his eye on Young during his sophomore year, which makes it even more puzzling that he didn’t trade Burns to make sure he could get Young in the next draft. Reich got a lot of excuses in here about Young because so many people loved the hire, but there was a lot of pre-draft discussions about GM and HC being in agreement. Heck, the point guard analogy came from Thomas Brown in February and Tepper still gets blamed for parroting what the coaches were invariably saying. Tepper has sucked because it’s his team but man does he get a lot of blame for decisions the football people said they made. I guess Rhule was enough of a personality that people focused on him but Frank and Scott got passes and Tepper was an easy target. It allowed the Fitterer and Reich fans to not feel as bad that they were wrong.

That OL was just awful to watch. Add in the drops on some potential nice gainers and that offense is terrible.

Definitely ugly and I’m glad we won, period. That said, when an 0-6 team that benched its QB has a chance to tie the game at the end, it just feels too close. It’s nice to see the studs play well and others step up but I’m definitely worried about the upcoming schedule.

Lol. One very under thrown ball that Legette played well means Dalton is good? I’m sorry but 1 first downs He’s from Dalton is basically why we as Panthers fans were still legitimately worried that we didn’t put away that terrible Jets team. Sauce Gardner didn’t even play a down after Young went to the locker room.

I hope it means something but it’s nice to see.

He’s so bad. He used to be OK but that was years ago.

I hope not but there was no reason for the throw to be that low.

Corbett ain’t good and why are we ignoring Dowdle?

It’s so frustrating watching his balls float like that. Horn should have caught it regardless but you’re bringing the DB there who likely knocks it away anyway. The people who said Young’s problem is something other than his arm surely aren’t watching the games because his arm strength is absolutely his biggest issue. We could have easily scored on that drive if he just had the ability to hit the open guys before the DBs got back into the plays.

We’ve had opportunities to take 2 of the top 5 Cs in the game and instead we took TMJ and Johnathan Brooks. Our drafts since 2017 have been 1 player per draft and then huge misses on lots of really good NFL players (who the huddle have talk about in the draft threads). It’s been mentioned here so many times to draft more OL once you get to the 2nd and beyond since C/G talent is top tier in day 2 and lots of surprise day 3 guys. Taking Brooks over Frazier just looks worse and worse as our OL helps Chuba and Rico look great and Frazier would be a large improvement over Mays.

And honestly, Metcalf was right there but didn’t play the ball well at all.

We only have 5 sacks which is dead last. Some teams have 20-30. Our pass rush is atrocious, worst in the league. That’s why we’re 22nd in scoring defense even with a shutout. That Atlanta game helps our rankings so much, but we’ll likely trend down over the season as it counts for 6% instead of 17%. Personally, the yardage numbers can be deceiving which is why I like scoring defense as a better representation. We of course look way better than last year but I wouldn’t consider it a top 10 defense yet.

Nope, you are correct. 3rd is the Bills one row above us.

Agreed. When this first came up, someone posted that Young had been behind in the 4th quarter of 39 of 40 games. Some of those will be close and we pull out a win. Because we’ve basically always been behind, I’d bet that Young is far and away the leader in potential GWDs. I sure don’t feel like we’ve won a lot of games since we are 10-30 with Bryce. This year is our best year so far, but this is as cherry picked as you can get with a stat.

Funny part about the Clausen comparison is that had we not traded away the farm to get Young, the rookie year results were similar (1-9 vs 2-14) and we got the #1 overall pick after both rookie years. Had we tried to tank better (trade Burns and Moore for 3 1sts and 1 2nd) and just picked Bryce without trading, we might have had Cam #2. We’ll never know but the comparison isn’t as far off as you think. Bryce was better since Jimmy was even more hot garbage but with our bad trade up (Bryce wasn’t worth it), he avoided a Josh Rosen type situation. By the way, I’m enjoying the wins so far but I thought it was interesting that both led to the #1 pick after rough rookie starts.

He was awful pass blocking. Only thing he did wrong but it was bad. I think he gave up at least one sack and multiple pressures. It wasn’t even mediocre, it was barely touching blitzers, almost like he was trying to slide by them and not actually make contact.

I’m not complaining at all, not that you were mentioning me. We had a great time watching the win. I still agree that I don’t think Young is the guy. If we somehow got to the SB, it would be because he Trent Dilfered it. I still don’t see him as the guy we can compete for a title with but it’s been way more fun to watch with my son who went to the Miami game. Our schedule gets tough though so who knows.

This. GWDs with no context invalidate a QB playing well and not turning the ball over and getting behind. If you play well and win easily, why is that less special than winning games where multiple TOs got your team behind? Is the post above really trying to say he’s as good as Cam? If this team had Cam, ooh wee it would be way more fun. Cam may not have even had a GWD in 2015 because of how often we jumped out to leads, should he give back his MVP?

If anyone wants a laugh, on the XP after Tucker (Tampa) ran for a TD, the ball boy tried to catch the ball on a bounce and it went through his hands and hit him square in the face. His head snapped back and his dark mop of hair accentuated the snap back and forth. I’m sure it’ll be on social media. Even my wife laughed when I showed her.

lol. We were in our own tier before the Miami game.

Made zero sense. He literally called timeout as it hit zero.

Bizarre. There’s literally no reason to call it at that point. Dude is legitimately horrible. Then Hurts follows it up with a scramble/run where they had no chance to line up for a spike. Not even close.

That might be true. No way to know but with all the picks we wouldn’t have wasted on Darnold, Baker, Corral and Young and having DJ Moore and CMC (Samuel and Robbie too, year 1), there’s probably a way better chance that he wouldn’t have busted. Unfortunately, we’ve had poo everywhere but maybe Rhule and Marty would’ve done OK. I’m still sure that our talent level would be much better by not having to trade CMC, Moore and all those damn picks to end up with Young at the end.

Right, but again, we used 2 1sts when we just had our 2nd best rushing game ever on a low cost FA acquisition. Chubba has almost half the rushing yards that Stewart had for his career. I just think we list every Hurney first as if they were all amazing and some were just OK (for firsts) at not marquee positions. His best legacy was that the 1st rounders didn’t bust a ton like the rest of his rounds.

Man, this revisionist history on Marty is funny. He was great at 1st rounders although I think we way overrate some of the players. For example, Stewart and Williams were solid but neither is in the top 50 in rushing in NFL history. They had 2 pro bowls in 22 combined years. Again, he rarely missed like Otah or the trades, but we went to the playoffs 3 times in his 14 years as a GM. I think “his” best team was 2015, which a collab with Gettleman who IMHO did a good job of filling around Luke, Cam, Greg and Norman to get a great DL (Star, Short, Ealy, Allen) and OL (Norwell, Turner) that was one good ref’d and coached game away the peak.