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I’m hopeful again because the last 5 years have sucked. Late 2018, you could tell Cam’s arm was shot and so could everyone else and that started the long run of losing. We haven’t had a QB since then that was close to a legit playoff QB. A QB we take at #1 sure as poo should be a legit playoff QB. Who knows if they will but it’s nice to feel like it’s possible.

Now imagine we beat the Bucs to actually make it to the playoffs. That kick didn’t keep us from the playoffs. The shitty job in the secondary, Wilks’ bread and butter, against Evans kept us out of the playoffs.

Seriously? Not continuing to build around Ridder = visiting with 1st round QBs like Stroud. How is that twisting poo when they are the same thing?

May be true but doesn’t make them idiots for visiting with Stroud in case he drops to them. If Houston doesn’t go QB, Atlanta will likely have to make a call on one of the top 4, not just Hooker. Hooker will not go top 10.

Disagree completely. Rudder was a 3rd rounder. If a much more talented QB is an available, you take that QB and don’t look back. We still have Corral. Are we stupid for taking a QB?

You hit the nail on head of why I wanted the Burns trade so bad, besides having an inkling that the Rams could be imploding. Our rookie QB is far more valuable to our future than Burns, period. The thought of having the ability to trade up and still have 3 1sts and 4 2nds in 3 drafts to surround a rookie with Olsen, a top OL and Chase and Higgins? Thanks Brian, love ya, but we’ll use your cap space and all our other picks to improve the D while creating a wall and cache of weapons.

Ramsey was had for pick 77.

Was never about him. Of course I’d want him on the team but for pick 36 and 2 more 1sts plus all that cap space for FAs, I’m building around my 1st overall QB not an expensive edge rusher. The Rams sure aren’t acting like they believe in their near term after dumping Ramsey for peanuts and Robinson/not trying to keep OBJ. I almost wonder if McVeigh comes back if we owned their 36, next year’s 1st and 2025 1st. Hard to rebuild an aging team with a QB having a bum elbow when you have no 1sts until 2026 and no 2nds until 2024.

It’s funny how Lawrence got skewered for a similar rookie season to Manning with far worse coaching/team. Used to be fairly common for a rookie to struggle especially starting on a not so great team. I wouldn’t be worried about a “bad” year, it’s likely to happen.

Only SB winning QB from that season. SMH.

As they dismantle the Rams, we are going to wish we fleeced them for picks. Would have been nice to get a top TE with 36 this year, a stud level WR as a weapon with their 2024 1st and stud RT to replace a 31 year old Moton in 2025 and save $17.5M in cap that year. Of course to go along with our own pick 39, 2024 2nd and 2025 1st. Could have been a young super offense using FA money and other picks on D.

I’ve been wanting a top rookie QB since my plan to tank for Trevor, which I will say was still genius and well beyond the minds of Hurney and Rhule, so I will be absolutely fine with Young. I’m not going to say I’m not worried a little about his size because TBH, I didn’t realize he was that small, just that he was a stud who I enjoyed watching occasionally. In the same way that I was OK with Fields if we couldn’t get Lawrence, I think I was OK with Stroud if Young wasn’t attainable. I didn’t see either as a Leaf to Manning or Mirer to Bledsoe type of 2nd QB. I just wish we traded Burns when the Rams were off their rocker so that we could have had our trade up and still had a flurry of 1sts and 2nds this and the next two drafts to build a logjam of real young talented weapons around him. We now need to get a bit lucky and hit on all the picks we still have. Our room for error is non existent.

No poo. I understand trading down in the 1st when you could pick up a next year’s 1st by dropping, but all of our trading back in 2021 wasn’t really successful. We got a lot of nickels/pennies and no quarters and dimes.

And we wouldn’t be talking about having a shot at any of the good QBs let alone picking the one we want.

We still lost to the Bucs and we would most likely not have made the playoffs because Tampa won’t sit everyone for their last meaningless game. Also, let it go. We needed a once in a career Hail Mary throw from PJ just to tie the game with 12 seconds left. Amazing how people blame the refs and yet don’t realize how lucky we were to score the TD.

Did Tunsil play his fourth year of his rookie deal as the reigning MVP for under $2M? Did Tunsil also play his fifth year without an extension? Did Tunsil get his extension? Apples to Oranges. Lamar royally screwed the pooch. An agent would have told him that as smaller running QB who has already been and MVP would not play the last rookie year or the fifth year without an extension. Lamar cost himself probably $40M and he still doesn’t have a long term deal.

They won’t all make the team.

Wasn’t Bozeman supposed to get $10-12M on this site? $16M seems reasonable considering Simmons has accomplished way more so far. Brown is around Vea but again Vea has better sack numbers considering injury time. Vea also has been to a pro bowl. Looking at DT contracts, Brown might get less than $16M like Bozeman. That would put him just outside the top 10 DT salaries. If he wasn’t pick 7, would he be thought of as just about top 10? No pro bowls or all pros. Low sack totals. I like him but I think someone in the 11th to 19th area makes most sense and that’s $10-14M per year. Rankins got about $10M a year and stats wise he was similar in his 4 years as Brown was in 3 due to injuries, but he had 16 sacks to Brown’s 6 sacks. If we go above $16M that would be a big overpay IMHO because he isn’t an elite top 10 guy. If we get $10-14M a year that seems about right.

Polarization right now won’t come close to the level it will be at if the one we take turns out to be just OK and the other leads the Texans to a SB win. Might as well lock this place up and throw away the key. There is of course the chance we make the right pick and it works out perfectly, but that type of hope is not available yet.

Not serious at all, just a tad confused when it went to Madden.

That’s not what I meant about the WRs. Remember when we drafted DJ? We were worried DJ or Ridley wouldn’t make it to us and they were both available. Same with Burns at 16, no way he gets to us. The top WRs this year aren’t close to the guys who’ve been going top 10/15 the past few years. I could easily see one or more of the WRs assumed to go in the first drop to 39. That could happen easily if we get say a TE run and more go 1st round that mocked. We hosted JPJ for a visit. There are always more people mocked for the first round than there are actual first round picks so we’ll have to wait and see who actually falls to 39. I still agree that edge or TE would be my vote because I think we could get guys who in a vacuum would be ranked much higher in normal TE/edge years rather than reach at WR/CB this year to get one that next year would be a later 2nd pick. DJ was still a good pick for us even though it was a weak WR class because we got the first WR in the 20s.

I feel like you completely missed the reference in my post and the post I replied to.

I tend to agree. That said, 39 should just be BPA. For whatever reason, I think one of a CB, edge, WR or TE who has 1st round value (especially in other years at edge/TE) will be there at 39. We still have plenty of holes to fill. CJ, Donte, YGM/?, Thielen, Chark and Hurst are all replaceable and/or not long term options so we shouldn’t pass over true BPA for any of them.

Was there a sticky note with Anderson no matter what on it? If so, we’ll have no problem getting DJ Putney and all our picks back too.

It’s awful to think about. QB wise: Picks - 2 firsts, 3 seconds, 1 third and 2 fourths (got a 6th back for Teddy) Cap - over $60M plus the rookie deal CB wise: Picks - 1 first, 1 third, 1 fourth, 1 fifth and 1 sixth Cap - $36M for Donte plus the rookie deals To think that we spent all that for Horn and Young/Stroud and a gaggle of easily replaced guys. $100M in cap and 3 firsts, 3 second, 2 thirds, 3 fourths and a couple more. SMH.