LinvilleGorge

I sure hope it's T-Mac but I won't be surprised in the least of Coker becomes the #2. At this point I'd already have him there and would've told XL it's up to him to earn it back, your draft status has carried you as far as it's going to carry you. We're playing the best players.

Calling Ian Thomas a JAG is an insult to all the hard working JAGs out there filling their role. Ian Thomas was the type of guy who should've bounced around training camps for a couple of years after his rookie contract expired before realizing that there's just not a spot for him in the NFL. His value in the NFL should've been fighting for a bottom of the roster spot while he was dirt cheap on a rookie contract. Once he had to be paid vet min his value slid to zero.

This. But yeah, he looked undeniably awful.

It seems like Bryce has really good chemistry with Thielen, T-Mac, and Coker. Everyone else is a work in progress on that front. When you consider that Theilen is well past his prime and could very possibly be entering his final season in the NFL, there's no way in hell I'm trading Coker unless the offer was just over the top absurdly generous. Honestly, the #1 goal this season should be trying to get the answer on Bryce Young moving forward. Moving Coker for some bandaid defensive piece or future draft assets that may or may not pan out would just be wildly idiotic which gives the history of Tepper's Panthers makes it frighteningly likely. LOL

Yep, we belong at or near the bottom of the league until we prove otherwise.

Sidelined due to injury situations aside, Ian Thomas has to be the Panthers who put the most money in the bank for the least return on the field. Sean Gilbert entered my mind but he was decent, he just was nowhere near the dominant force that we invested in him to be. Ian Thomas was just an absolute waste of a roster spot and yet somehow turned that into damn near $20M. Crazy.

The forum largely turning into draft talk by Halloween is an annual Panthers tradition at this point.

LOL Imagine embarrassing yourself like this to simp for some other team's 5th round rookie.

To enjoy a Panthers game it's important to bring your poo eating grin with you.

Well, at least we haven't resorted to selling poo shaped pretzels and telling fans it's meant to be our logo, but maybe we should look into it

Yeah, outside of the TD drive there wasn't a whole lot to be hopeful about. I mean, even the starting D benefitted from Shedeur missing a couple of throws and a receiver cutting off a comeback route half a yard short on 3rd down. It was more about the Browns failing to capitalize than it was about them forcing stops.

So you think 32 teams colluded just to hose Shedeur Sanders in the draft? For a self proclaimed intelligent person you consistently make the lowest IQ arguments. LOL

No one gets "hosed" in the draft. You get drafted where your perceived worth is. Just more emotion based arguments from you, per usual.

We'll find out if he plays in the regular season. Watching y'all slobber over this dude because he played well against our camp bodies after looking like a JAG against our starters and primary backups is just embarrassing.

We didn't learn anything new. He held the ball forever, scrambled around, and found some receivers against subpar completion. It was just an extension of Colorado. We already know he can do that. We don't know if he can play QB in the NFL when games matter and teams are game planning for him to try to do that.

I'm saying he didn't look very good against actual NFL players and started liking good when he was playing against guys who will be working at the Amazon warehouse in a couple weeks. It's not that hard to decipher.

Okay. All I'm saying is that we consistently look incompetent on the field so don't be the least but surprised if that continues into the regular season. Maybe we break that trend this year but... I wouldn't bet a dime on it.

Norman was getting 2nd/3rd round talk. Thornton was a potential late round pick. Both guys slid considerably due to poor workouts. Norman to the 5th, Thornton out of the draft. Thornton also played four seasons at UCF before a super senior year at Louisville.

Yeah, so far so good. I hope he keeps it up. I'm just addressing the bewilderment on how he went undrafted. In terms of pure athleticism measurables, he's a bottom of the barrel athlete for an NFL CB. That has to have played a huge role in him going undrafted.

Of course he should be. Injuries and roster issues aside, when you field a historically atrocious unit you probably should be fired, at minimum on the hottest of seats.

Haven't heard much about him out of camp, but yeah we paid him to be an impact starter and that's what we need out of him.

His 40 time would've been the slowest CB time at the combine and pro day times are notoriously faster than combine times. His 10 yard split would've been 2nd slowest. His vertical would've been the tied for 3rd lowest among CBs. His bench reps would've been the lowest. His three cone would've been the slowest. His broad jump would've been tied for 4th shortest. His shuttle would've been tied for the slowest. There's no way to sugarcoat it, his pure athleticism measurables are very subpar for an NFL CB. Now we're going to find out if he can overcome that on the field. I'm happy about the reports out of camp and he had a promising first preseason game but we need to pump the brakes a little bit here. Crowning him possibly the best Panthers UDFA of all-time after one solid preseason game? I mean, c'mon... LOL

On the contrary, he can flip you off with his other hand while preparing to knock the hell out of you with the big hand. LOL

His workout numbers really hurt him. Teams probably looked at these athleticism measurables and simply saw a guy that they didn't consider an NFL caliber athlete.

Through one preseason game, Shedeur is 13th in passing yardage, 16th in completion percentage, and 20th in passer rating with few starters playing. The way a lot of people and the sports media is acting you would've thought he was the clearcut best QB in the preseason but he's actually very middle of the pack. Just keep in perspective y'all. He struggled against starters and primary backups and played well against camp bodies who won't be on a roster in a couple of weeks.