LinvilleGorge

I don't think it's necessarily how college offenses work but how college offenses have impacted NFL offenses. More and more spread type formations but more and more pressure on your OL. There are just fewer blockers available even if all they're doing is chipping before releasing into their route. NFL coaches have been blaming the college game for their shoddy prospect evaluation and player development since the beginning of the league. College coaches aren't paid to develop NFL talent. They're paid to build winning college football programs which just so happens to usually also produce NFL prospects.

Welcome to Panthers fandom. We've never given a single solitary fug about the OL. Any decent OL we ever fielded was primarily out of pure horseshit luck having some bargain basement free agents and/or mid-late round draft picks work out. The same was true of the secondary too but we've quite obviously changed our approach there.

I have an idea. Let's just play the cart at at OG.

Y'all realize that when he's saying that Darnold isn't feeling and seeing the pass rush that he's meaning that in a positive light, right? But that was about the only positive thing he said. Yeah, we obviously need to cut down on the turnovers but the guy literally took zero responsibility for any of the offensive struggles. Not a good look IMO.

I've been against paying RBs huge money for a long time now. With that said, with CMC's threat as a receiver he's much more than the typical RB but with that said, one of the typical concerns with paying RBs huge money has befallen him the last two seasons.

People shot on Eli, but that guy played completely out of his mind in the playoffs in those two SB seasons. Was his overall career worth the trade they made? Honestly, no. But those two Lombardis were.

Hence why many of us have been calling for Christensen and Brown to play. There's hope that those guys can grow and improve. The rest of these dudes are depth caliber at best.

If that was the case he'd be released like Slye was. I think most likely Charlton has been playing through injury all season long. He was punting great in the preseason.

I just think he didn't really know how to answer a pointed question and was basically just babbling to avoid saying, "Listen, we thought they'd play better and we hoped they could overcome past injury issues. We were wrong. We bet on the wrong horses. poo happens. Fug."

I'm not as certain about this. Most of his worst moments come from just getting forklifted into Darnold's lap on a one on one bullrush. It just doesn't seem like he regained his physical strength after that hip injury.

Elflein played well at center as a rookie. He was terrible there in his second season. Pretty sure he's only played guard ever since then.

So was Ryan Leaf and a poo ton of other outright busts. Draft status just doesn't matter anymore once you've shown what you are in the league.

That OL question shook him. He's not an idiot. He knows this OL is trash. Fitts has been making calls. There's nothing out there to be had. The only hope for a better OL this season is playing the rookies and letting them learn in the job. As for the vets, it's probably time to go back and reevaluate everything. Are they playing the right positions for this roster? For instance, Erving's best spot might be LT but this roster might require him to play LG. It's blatantly obvious that the initial plan has been producing disastrous results. Back to the drawing board on the OL and that probably entails just reshuffling the current deck.

I think Rhule was probably just challenging his defense. He knows they have the talent to be dominant. Beyond that, he is probably also starting to realize that this team is only going as far as the D and CMC can drag them.

I don't think we ever saw Elflein and Erving as legit "answers", but I definitely think we expected them to be legit vet bandaids. I'm just not exactly sure why.

I'm not saying who they should or should not have signed. I'm just saying they shouldn't have overpaid historically mediocre and oft-injured players out of desperation. The fact that we signed them pretty much upon the kickoff of free agency tells me that they were the guys we specifically targeted based on our scouting and that obviously we felt they were worth what we were paying. We knew we were going to be targeting mid-level OL FA and they were the guys we identified out of the bunch to go after. That's concerning.

I'm just saying that's the type of contracts FAs of that caliber are normally looking at. If someone else wanted to overpay in the meantime, fine. Every team has some JAGs, but you gotta pay JAGs like JAGs. I would rather have lost the opportunity to sign a Pat Elflein than give him 3/$13.5M. Just go after the next guy on the list.

I wouldn't have had issues with the signings had we signed them for at or near vet min after the primary wave of FA was over. That's how you sign those caliber of FAs. Reed signed for one year $1.1M with less than $200k guaranteed. We signed Elflein for three years $13.5M with $6M guaranteed. That's a massive difference for similar caliber talents.

We identified guys who we thought would be decent veteran bandaids and we specifically targeted them. They had historically been mediocre and oft-injured. They proved to be mediocre and oft-injured for us. This was entirely predictable. In short, we Hurney's it on the OL this off-season. We made poor evaluations and we spent poorly. Erving and Elflein were vet minimum type of players. Paying them better won't make them better. Classic Hurney type mistake.

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Not familiar with them. Took a quick look at the website and my concern is that they're only doing potency testing, no pesticide or heavy metal contamination testing. High end industry standard is all three. I'm not familiar with Botanica which is the lab they're using for potency testing. Looking at Botanica's website, I have some concerns. I'm not seeing any mentioning of even offering pesticide and heavy metal testing and they're using some red flag language. Saying things like "effective treatment for *insert ailment here*" regarding cannabis is how you get on the FDA radar and you do not want to be on the FDA's radar. Honestly, I'd shop elsewhere.

LOLOLOL @ the Colts

Yep. I put a serious jinx on them with this thread. LOL!

The Colts absolutely deserve to lose this game. LOL!

Can he play OG or C? Because if not I honestly don't care. Defense isn't the problem.