LinvilleGorge

Cooks' final season in college: 128 catches for 1730 yards and 16 TDs, he added another 217 yards and 2 TDs rushing Dorsett last season: 36 catches for 871 yards and 10 TDs Stats aren't everything and two totally different systems, but yeah, I can fully understand why people were a lot more excited about Cooks than Dorsett.

Let me show you how nonviolent I am by whooping your ass!

Overall, I don't think you are. But when it comes to the WR position specifically... yeah, you're carrying that torch.

I would say the same about you. We just had a rookie WR who had 1000 receiving yards and was one of only 11 rookie WRs in the last 20 yeas to surpass that mark. He was ranked #19 in the NFL among WRs in receiving yards, #12 in TDs, #26 in most 20+ yard plays, #22 in yards per game, and #18 in 1st downs yet you want to act like he's hot trash. Yeah, you're back pedaling hard right now, but your initial statement was that KB was "gigantic, slow, and had a huge case of the dropsies". Keep in mind, everyone was saying how raw this guy was coming into the NFL and most posters were proclaiming they'd be happy with 600-700 receiving yards from him as a rookie. Sure, he needs to work on his consistency but he wildly outperformed even the most positive of expectations.

Proudiddy, how legit #1 WRs are their in the NFL? It seems to me that you expect a guy to be a top 10 WR to be a true #1. That isn't reasonable.

Wow. Two guys who should be walking on egg shells seeing that Coleman was a UFA last year who finished the season on the practice squad and Hardy. Well, ya know.

Honestly, this is my concern too. He wasn't the Giants' GM so I'm not sure how much the Giants' drafting philosophy foreshadows regarding his own draft philosophy, but the Giants have always tried to build an OL out of mid and late round picks. They won two Super Bowls, but a lot of their struggles (and Eli's) the last couple of seasons has been due to their OL being hot trash.

Just watch, we'll take a WR at #25 and Proudiddy will bitch and moan that, "Gettleman doesn't give a damn about WR! Look, he drafted ANOTHER #2 WR! We still need a #1!!!"

I think a lot of Gettleman's "fill needs through FA to be able to go BPA in the draft" talk is just that, talk. Every team tries to go into the draft with as few glaring holes as possible, but we went into Gettleman's first draft in Carolina with a MASSIVE need at DT. What'd he do? Double dipped and went DT in the 1st and 2nd rounds. We went into last year's draft with a MASSIVE need at WR. What'd he do? Took a WR in the 1st round. I don't think it's a coincidence that his early picks have been at positions of need. Gettleman wants high draft picks to be impact players immediately. While most didn't see that in Ealy, Gettleman knew then that Hardy was playing his last season in Carolina. He didn't anticipate Ealy having to play as big of a role as he did, but I think he felt all along that Kony Ealy would be penciled in as a starter for the 2015 season.

I don't really care about #1 vs. #2. Just give me two legit starters and call whichever one you want the #1. KB is one legit starter. We need another one.

I don't think anyone has talked about Philly as the potential #2, have they? I also think you're badly underselling KB. Prior to last season, only 8 rookie WRs in the last 20 years had 1000+ receiving yards as a rookie. He definitely needs to work on his consistency, but the dude is a beast and every team and QB in the NFL would love to have him.

It's just my opinion, but I think we're going WR early in the draft again this year. Overall, I like our WR depth chart. We just have a glaring hole at #2. We have ample bodies to compete for #3 through #5 or #6. Ginn has shown what he can do in our offense and Brown showed promise last season. I think they're probably going to compete for that #3 role. Our #2 will come in the draft.

I would've liked to have seen Nicks here, but Gettleman was in NY for Nicks' entire career and should be very familiar with him. If he thought he could help us out, I'm sure he'd be here.

Yeah, they're definitely drafting another QB high this year because, well, they're the Browns and that's just what they do. I think they probably take a QB at either #19 or #43 unless they make some sort of trade to get one somewhere in between those two spots.

LOL! Okay...

No proven production + huge questions off the field = do not want. The risk outweigh the reward. Someone will probably draft him in the 1st or 2nd round and I'm gonna LMAO.

How is he going to dominate as a rookie in the NFL? He never dominated at the college level and he's a year removed from playing at all. He's pure potential with very little proven production and a ton of question marks off the field. I would be shocked if he's even on our draft board.

My point is that people are over hyping the hell out of this guy. He's big and runs fast. He has very little college production to look at. This isn't a guy who is a three year starter and two time All-American. He was just a guy in Missouri's offense and didn't play a single snap of football last year. I wouldn't even consider drafting him in the first three rounds with his off field concerns. But all the fanboys see is 6'6" with 4.4 speed and a couple of "analysts" compared him to Randy Moss which is insanely idiotic.

Sigh... I'm not surprised though. You've proven time and again that you're dumber than a bag of hammers.

Beasley looks like a beast to me. Von Miller clone except he's a lot stronger. 35 reps is ridiculous. If he doesn't go in the top 10 I'll be shocked.

Beasley looks like a beast to me. Von Miller clone except he's a lot stronger. 35 reps is ridiculous. If he doesn't go in the top 10 I'll be shocked.

That reading comprehension...

Guys his size with elite explosion are top 10 picks.

Were they not running the triple option yet? They were definitely run heavy as hell, that's for sure. Meanwhile, DGB was playing at pass happy Missouri. He never led the team in receiving yardage and accounted for a little over 20% of Missouri's receiving yardage in his two seasons there. Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss... puleeeeeze

Dave Gettleman values pass rushers over seemingly everything else in life and he just let a proven elite NFL pass rusher walk due to off field concerns. Y'all really thing he's going to spend a high draft pick on a WR who has significant off field concerns and is a pure potential pick? Yes, DGB is just potential, that's it. The guy has less than 1300 total receiving yards in college. That isn't proven production, that's potential. Next Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss? Please. Randy Moss had over 1800 receiving yards and 26 receiving TDs - yes, 26! - in his one season at Marshall. Calvin Johnson racked up just shy of 3000 receiving yards in 3 years at GT while playing a damn triple option offense. He had 1202 receiving yards his final season accounting for over half of GT's total receiving yardage.