LinvilleGorge

As you continue to derail your own thread LOLOLOLOL You can't make this stuff up. Clown activity.

And I'm talking about you derailing your own thread in your initial post. Speaking of being daft... Your cope is constantly getting bent out of shape about people being critical of Bryce. Look around. People are shitting on Tepper, Morgan, Evero, Canales, the LBs, Moehrig, and on and on but oddly you only take issue with criticisms of a certain individual.

Yeah, the VP of Football Analytics is a PFF guy and so is the Director of Data Science.

I wish people would actually go back and watch his college games knowing what they know now. Myself and plenty others on here pointed out some glaring talent deficiencies and laid out why his playing style was unlikely to translate to the NFL given his skill set. Go back and watch Bryce throwing to wide open receivers. Watch him immediately backpedal 10 yards behind the LOS after every snap to gain depth to see over the scrum and stand square to the line forcing him to reset his feet and flip his hips to actually deliver the ball once he finds what he wants. None of it was going to work at the NFL level. Now I will say that even as a loud Bryce dissenter from the get go even i am shocked at how bad it's been. I didn't think he was ever going to be a franchise starter but I honestly never anticipated that he would be THIS bad either.

I tried to tell folks that Moehrig was just an undersized LB. Honestly, I'd tell him to gain 25 pounds this off-season and do exactly that - play him at LB.

As for PFF, the Carolina Panthers building an entire analytics department of guys poached from PFF and then fielding this roster, I mean...

When you don't have a QB you don't have a chance so yeah, if the QB you invested massively into giving up a lot of roster building capital to acquire sucks then yeah, that's your biggest problem in terms of roster issues. Keep making excuses for Bryce and coming up with new and increasingly entertaining mental gymnastics to try to cover for him but it is what it is. We would have hope if we had a QB. We were ass Cam's rookie year but we were all excited because we knew we had a QB. All other roster deficiencies are easy fixes compared to QB. Derailing threads? Man you derailed your own thread in your initial post. LOLOLOL

4-3 isn't fixing our problem. We have no 4-3 DEs and Scourton and Princely were basically wasted picks if we go back to a 4-3. The problem isn't the alignment, the problem is we don't have NFL caliber LBs and our DC is trash.

I just wanna see Evero fired, frying him seems a bit extreme.

Bruh, there's certainly "cope" going on with Bryce but it ain't coming from the folks saying he ass.

I'm glad we didn't take that approach going into '03.

I can believe that we have good weeks at practice. The problem is that it's ass vs. ass. Our offense is ass and our defense is ass. When we have to face outside competition that isn't ass or at least isn't as mega ass as we are then it's a problem.

He looks like he's one smart comment away from snatching up some poor BOA vendor by the collar and demanding a liter 'a cola.

Dalton at this point is basically like late career Cam in that he can come in and look pretty good for a game or two but it just doesn't seem like he's physically up to prolonging that for more than a game or two.

Yeah, the Evero truly seems to be the head coach of the defense. I'm all for giving coordinators plenty of rein to work with but when your HC is practically begging his DC to play some younger guys instead of trash tier vets and the DC pretty much brushes it off that seems like a problem.

He always gets infatuated with the wrong people. First it was Rhule. He let Rhule scapegoat the actual good up and coming coach in the organization in Brady because Brady was the one guy in the staff who wasn't his guy. Then it was Bryce. We mortgaged the entire franchise on a QB prospect with no NFL measurables. He knee jerk hires the opposite of Rhule in Reich, an offensive minded head coach with tons of NFL experience then builds a staff of the same around him except for the riding star in Evero. Then he forces Evero on the Canales staff and...

I don't think anyone with other options is coming here at this point. If they have other options or reasonably anticipate having other options coming up within the next couple of years they're not jumping on the Tepper clown show career path grenade. And honestly their agents are probably telling them that.

They both just seem over their heads in their current roles and that's why no one else was considering them for these roles. But other than getting extremely lucky they'd be replaced by similar.

It would be about seeing the offense actually function and move the ball. Hell, a functioning offense that moves the ball and puts up points but shoots us in the dick with turnovers kinda feels like the perfect situation. We get a more watchable product, Canales shows his offense can fix ruin with a QB with NFL tools, and we protect our draft position with turnovers and Evero defense.

My concern is that the replacements will be hired by the same guy and come from the same limited talent pool of people willing to work for Tepper. That's why I'm all for giving Morgan and Canales every opportunity this year I'm not letting them trade away future high picks but I'm not getting in their way of they want to trade a 5th or less for a QB that they say can make this offense work. It's worth that cost to get the answer on them. Let them do that and the results still look like this, now you know for sure and it only cost you a later round pick to get that definitive answer.

I'm a lot less certain about that. Maybe. But I could also see Teller being minded like the Bryce stans here who were convinced last year that he'd turned the corner and that we had to just keep building around him. If that was the case going in surely he has to be over it by now.

It helps to answer the Canales question. With the Bryce question answered now we have to work on the lingering big question. I'm out on Bryce and Evero. Now we gotta work on the Canales question.

I'm not at all convinced that Canales and/or Morgan chose this route. I honestly find it doubtful that they wouldn't have preferred to upgrade the backup QB position. Maybe they honestly didn't. I don't know. But it really felt like we went into this off-season all in on the Bryce train again and that seems like something that would've come from the top. I don't see football people willingly forgoing an obvious weak spot on their roster at the most important position in the game.

Again, I get it from a fans perspective. I'm just looking at it from the Morgan/Canales perspective. If we end up with a top 3 pick looking like we currently look they're gone. If we end up with a top 10ish pick but showing some type of hope they might have a chance. These constant resets aren't working. If you fire this current crew while keeping them basically saddled to the Bryce experiment and the DC that you told them they were retaining them you didn't really even give it a chance. Do I think that Morgan/Canales are the answer? I'm very doubtful. But I also realize that no one with other options is coming to Carolina so we're looking at replacing them with similar level candidates and just praying that a scratch off lottery ticket hits. At some point you have to at least start convincing the front office/coaching talent pool that they're going to get a fair shake in Carolina and right now I think there's the opposite feeling out there and for good reason.

That's why I'd bench Bryce sooner rather than later. There are still several weeks until the trade deadline. There's plenty of time to get a good look at Dalton. If he's looking like ass after 2-3 games at that point I think you have to seriously shop around.