LinvilleGorge

You have as many Ws as your Jets. If you didn't understand the point I was making about Carr that's on you. Meanwhile, I guess I was slot on about you being a butthurt Jets fan too prideful to admit you were wrong about your franchise savior Darnold. I was just shooting in the dark there. But, bullseye!

Pathetic is being a fan of a team and then following that team's bust of a former high first round pick to another team because you were high on him. Go the fug away. The guy busted and you're so butthurt about it that you're still beating your bird chest and following him around hoping to somehow be right because your pride is hurt. I'll be cheering for Darnold this fall because he's the Panthers' QB. I want what's best the the Panthers even if it means being wrong. You're a butthurt bitch following around a bust of a QB because you're butthurt. Pathetic indeed.

You're right for the wrong reasons. David Carr was put into arguably the worst situation any QB has ever walked into. Sam Darnold walked into a typical highly drafted rookie bad situation. Virtually everyone drafted high in the 1st is walking into a bad situation. Teams don't get high 1st round picks by being in good situations unless someone traded the farm to get there. I hope I'm wrong about Darnold. I hope he's great. I'd love to be wrong. I just doubt I am. There's too much history saying busts rarely recover.

IF we're in the mix.

Honestly, this schedule screams that the NFL thinks we're gonna suck. Our lone primetime game is against the Texans who sucked even worse than us last year and are almost certainly going to be without Watson at the time of our match up. Everyone has to get a primetime game, so they just burn one on two shitty teams.

He hasn't proven he's not. His career in NY resembled Carr's in Houston. Carr never bounced back. I'll believe Darnold will when it actually happens. History says it almost certainly won't. It's not what Panthers fans want to hear, but that's reality. The exact same things were said about Carr. He has the talent. Houston failed him. It's not his fault. His supporting cast sucked. His OL sucked. His coaches sucked. All of that was true, but he also still very much sucked outside of Houston.

Hell no it wasn't and I said so at the time. We got exactly what we should've known we were getting.

We went 4-11 with Teddy. Was that worth $40M in cap space we'll never get back?

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Teddy is trash and we paid him like a mid-level starter. If you're going to be forced to start a QB the level of a Teddy or Kyle Allen, go with the guy that's going to cost you a fraction of the price. If we had it to do over again, that's what we would've done. I'd bet money on that.

QBs the caliber of Teddy and Kyle Allen do. That's why we had to eat a good chunk of his salary to offload him. He's only hitting the Broncos for $4.4M this year.

Neither are good enough. That's what is important. Allen had the very key advantage of being a fraction of the cost. So yes, Allen at his contract was definitely better than giving Teddy $63M over 3 years.

Yeah. Better than Teddy.

I said it at the time of the signing. We just paid a bunch of money for no appreciable upgrade over Kyle Allen.

What would've been the difference between Teddy and Kyle Allen? Hell, honestly Kyle Allen is better.

Let's not get too cocky. Darnold's career best is 19 and he threw 9 last season.

Because dumb. I'm afraid we repeated that mistake with the Darnold trade.

Moton has been our best OL for awhile now. Norwell had surpassed Turner by the time he left in free agency. I'm not sure that Turner was ever our best OL after getting paid to be that.

I don't disagree on a lot of stuff you said, but it had been a long time since Trae Turner had been in the conversation for being our best OL.

I don't think we'll play Christiansen at LG if we think he's the future at LT. At best, Erving is a stop gap. I think they'll want Christiansen preparing for that spot as soon as he's ready.

Of course it is. Everyone else in the building was talking about a five year plan. Hurney was the one on a one year contract needing a borderline miracle to have any hope of getting an extension.

Erving was the vet bandaid signing. Christensen is the future. Hopefully the future is sooner rather than later. That's the plan anyway...

They're gonna blame it on Hurney. I would too. But we all know Teddy wouldn't have been here if Rhule and Brady didn't enthusiastically sign off on it.

The perfect response would simply be something along the lines of, "Teddy worked hard here and gave us the heat he had. He's free to say whatever he wants about his time here. Meanwhile, he threw for more redzone TDs last year as a Panther than he has in any other season in his career."