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Darnold part of the draft day strategy
JawnyBlaze replied to JawnyBlaze's topic in Carolina Panthers
And if we do end up taking Fields or Lance, Darnold is also a cheap placeholder til the rookie is ready, sparing us having to suffer through Teddy during that adjustment period.- 141 replies
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I think it’s entirely possible that in addition to hedging our bets with Darnold in case a top four QB doesn’t drop to us, it could also have been a strategy to make teams behind us think we’re not going to draft a QB and therefore have no reason to trade ahead of us. Fitterer’s comment about changing nothing on our board might be next level gamesmanship, causing teams behind us to think that if that’s what Fitterer is saying publicly then his real plan is not to get a QB, making it more likely a QB falls to us. if that’s the case, then it was a cheap price to pay to increase the likelihood our guy falls to us. If not, it was a cheap price to pay to take a chance on a guy that’s never been put in a situation to succeed and then surround him with talent.
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How would Mayfield, Murray, or Allen have faired with the Jets?
JawnyBlaze replied to GOAT's topic in Carolina Panthers
All three would have failed miserably. More miserably than Darnold? The world will never know. -
Just curious. How do you feel about Sammy's vs Teddy's deal?
JawnyBlaze replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
Teddy was a disaster from the start. He was never going to be better than the milquetoast QB he always has been. Darnold has upside. I think this was a good, not great trade. Low cost, high reward. -
Absolutely not. Teddy was a disaster of a decision. Darnold is a low cost calculated risk based on the unlikelihood we’re able to get a better QB in the draft. Even if Darnold fails it wasn’t a bad decision at the time.
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I read that we are picking up his option. And a second and fourth in the future is a third and fifth in the now. Not that valuable.
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According to Schefter that’s exactly where it started, a fourth. And ended up at a 6th and a couple future picks.
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interesting watch
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So then, what are we netting for Teddy and where’s he headed to?
JawnyBlaze replied to davos's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think we net nothing because we’ll cut him and who cares where he’ll go because he won’t be our problem any more. -
What demonstrations? The Matt Stafford attempt? Not a bad idea. Being “within striking distance” of a rookie? If you mean Mac Jones (bleh) or Trask or someone then sure maybe. I’d rather have Darnold. The good four were going to be gone anyway since Jacksonville and the Jets are taking QBs themselves, I don’t believe SF is going to take Jones, that would be almost as bad as signing Teddy Bridgewater to be your starter. Atlanta is talking about trading back but it ain’t going to be with us. So that’s 1-4. I don’t want a QB that’s not one of those four. One of us is being willfully stupid, and it ain’t me. Only one of us is claiming a 23 year old QB who’s only played for the Jets could already be a verified bust.
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If you think a sixth and a future second and fourth is a haul, then there really is no reasoning with you.
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A lot of us actually did. I’m mildly optimistic about Darnold though.
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And the draft hasn’t happened yet...and it was looking like there weren’t going to be any in striking distance. If they actually are when the draft happens, nothing is stopping us from taking one. Better to have one too many QBs than one too few.
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Who did they bypass? The only option that’s bypassed at this point is deshaun watson
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Nobody’s career is staked on this. They didn’t spend much on a guy with high potential. His price tag was low enough that if the guy they actually wanted surprises them and is available in the draft they could still take him. A future second and some filler picks for a rental QB while the rookie sits and learns isn’t a bad model to follow. If the guy they wanted isn’t available, at least we’re not stuck with Teddy.
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I’m going with neither. Was looking more and more like QB wasn’t in the cards for us this draft. The four good ones are likely to be gone. The small price tag is worth the potential we’re getting in Darnold and if he ends up still sucking, hopefully we’ll be in position to get Howell or another top QB prospect next year.
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If by lateral you mean huge improvement. At his worst Darnold is better than Teddy. And one of them looked ok on a stacked team, the other has looked a little less than ok on one of the worst teams of the past three decades.
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Lol at whining about next year’s second. I’m not real big on Darnold but he’s young and no one succeeds on the Jets. If he’s good, then it’s a steal, if he’s bad then at least he’s still better than Bridgewater. And we didn’t give up much for him. Next year’s second ain’t that valuable
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PFF grade on throws past first read since 2019
JawnyBlaze replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Oh yea absolutely, I’m not saying I don’t think he can make the reads. Not at all. Just saying I haven’t seen it like I have with others. Would genuinely like to see it and would hope to be shown my error. There’s a lot I like about him and would be happy for us to get him either way. -
PFF grade on throws past first read since 2019
JawnyBlaze replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I’d love to see the video they’re looking at to make this assessment. I watched every single snap available on YouTube multiple times over and I saw him throw to a 2nd+ read exactly two times. I know YouTube isn’t a great source of intel, but it’s what I have available. I like Fields, I want to like him more. I’ll be thrilled if we’re able to draft him (but not quite as thrilled as if we got Wilson) but I’m just not seeing this evidence of making reads. -
Anyone else succumbing to best QB available?
JawnyBlaze replied to Mr. Herbert's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is my list for us. Jones wouldn’t be in the top 20. -
Anyone else succumbing to best QB available?
JawnyBlaze replied to Mr. Herbert's topic in Carolina Panthers
For me it goes: Lawrence Wilson Fields Lance Sewell Slater Pitts whoever is the top WR -
Anyone else succumbing to best QB available?
JawnyBlaze replied to Mr. Herbert's topic in Carolina Panthers
I want one of the top four QBs, by trade if necessary. I think they all are worth it. If it’s just not possible, top two OTs next. If those six are all gone by our #8, Pitts. If THATS the top seven....top WR I guess. Or third OT if they deem him worth it. -
Wow wish I could poo this more than once.